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    08-31-2009, 06:52 PM
  #31
Yearling
I meant that it could be considered abuse by some people in that it was (presumably) an avoidable situation. People could say that if he were a dangerous horse, I shouldn't of been in the pasture with him, or someone should've taught him better. In other words, it becomes abuse because if the horse knew better or I'd stayed away, then I wouldn't have had to hit him.
I've had people tell me that I was wrong for hitting him, before, is all.
     
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    08-31-2009, 09:32 PM
  #32
Showing
I agree, it is not wrong to hit a horse who is charging you. If he never recieved proper training, that isn't your fault (unless you were training him). And I don't know about any one else, but I refuse to avoid a certain area just because a certain horse is there and he is a little aggressive. I would probably go through his paddock on purpose as often as possible because he may not like me, but he WILL respect me and my space.
     
    08-31-2009, 10:49 PM
  #33
Yearling
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
I agree, it is not wrong to hit a horse who is charging you. If he never recieved proper training, that isn't your fault (unless you were training him). And I don't know about any one else, but I refuse to avoid a certain area just because a certain horse is there and he is a little aggressive. I would probably go through his paddock on purpose as often as possible because he may not like me, but he WILL respect me and my space.
absolutely. Thinking about this more though, I can name an instance of discipline that ruined a horse.

South Jersey Devil, oh did he end up living up to his name. Anyway there was a girl that worked for my uncle. This horse used to play around and nip sometimes. Well she would never leave him alone, she wanted to play and play with him, but when he nipped she would bop him on the nose. Well one day Jersey had enough, his nipping turned into BITING, his biting turned to LUNGING over the door, and that turned into ATTACKING people.
One day after that all started, a guy went into change his water bucket (AFTER my uncle instructed him to not do anything with that horse) and Jersey got his arm. Tore it up pretty good. Then after that, one day, he got my uncles arm. He REALLY tore that up and pissed off my uncle so he gelded him. Well that didnt make him stop. One day later my sister was raking the isleway in the barn. My sister is large, 200+, and Jersey was small, only about 900lbs. Jersey came over the door and got her by the shoulder. He tried to pull her over the stall door and wouldnt let go. My cousin ran in when he heard her screaming and grabbed the metal pitchfork, he thought he had her by the head. He started beating on that horse. Had my sister not stopped him, he probably would have killed him, he was that upset.
     
    09-01-2009, 04:29 AM
  #34
Showing
Yep, it is amazing how inappropriate or nonexistant discipline can ruin a horse but proper discipline can make them respect you.
     
    09-03-2009, 03:55 PM
  #35
dee
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I've always considered discipline to be constructive in it's intent, while abuse is DEstructive in it's intent. IE a serious smack on the nose when a horse tries to bite is an attempt to teach the horse not to repeat that behavior. (A light tap on the nose for that same behavior could be considered "play" by the horse and actually encourage the undesirable behavior!) Abuse would be beating the horse out of anger and revenge for the bite...
     

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