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post #1 of 102 Old 10-23-2009, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
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Angry It disgusts me!

People can't accept the fact that horse slaughter is banned here in the US!They have to figure out a way to be able to sell horse meat somehow.So how do they do it?They kill other peoples family horses It seriously hurts me and my hearts go out to the people that have lost their horses because selfish greedy people wanted money.

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post #2 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 06:38 AM
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I know almost nothing about this, but wouldnt they take them out of the US to do it, i heard Canada? I could be wrong. And they do it, for money. They buy horses, legit, horses not many would want. So its not as if they take a familys beloved pet. Im not saying i like it, but its never going to stop. Theres a large market for it.
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post #3 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 10:13 AM
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I totally agree. Horse slaughter is disgusting. All though the fact that they kill horses is terrible, i think the worst part about these slaughter houses is how they kill them. If they used humane methods and made the process quick and painless, it would make it slightly better, because the slaughter buisness is a massive market.

I am against the slaughter buisness, and the fact that canada is still allowing horse slaughter really makes me ashamed, since i live in canada.
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post #4 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 11:23 AM
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I totally agree. Horse slaughter is disgusting. All though the fact that they kill horses is terrible, i think the worst part about these slaughter houses is how they kill them. If they used humane methods and made the process quick and painless, it would make it slightly better, because the slaughter buisness is a massive market.

I am against the slaughter buisness, and the fact that canada is still allowing horse slaughter really makes me ashamed, since i live in canada.

Do you eat cow? Chicken? Pig? Turkey? Farmed fish from mills? Is it okay to slaughter them? Have you ever seen how they kill chickens or turkeys? Cattle often get the same treatment that horses do from my knowledge.


If horse slaughter WASN'T illegal in the US the USDA could monitor slaughter houses and keep things lawful. Do you work in slaughter houses? Do you know for sure how they kill horses in these places? Or do you just know the shock value videos published by PETA or SHARK online to scare people with grotesque things that are not usually the norm?

It's a necessary evil. How many QH's are registered each year? Thoroughbreds? Backyard bred grade horses? I know someone who rides a FRIESIAN stallion they rescued out of a slaughter house feed lot.

Where are these horses going to go if slaughter is banned totally on horses?

How is it any different than slaughter of a cow? Indian people don't eat cow and probably think we're barbaric for doing so since they are idols to them.

Italy I know buys horse meat.

Japanese people eat shark fin soup and Orca meat.

Until there isn't one single horse tied to a tree starving to death because Bobby Jo thought his gangly stud colt just HAD to breed to his mare, what can we do exactly?

I know I know it's not just back yard breeders. I've seen lots of fine bred horses shipped off to slaughter too. Including Friesians.

So what CAN we do? What do you think we can do?


Legal, regulated slaughter houses in the US that must function under lawful guidelines and kill in humane ways or keep it illegal and have them sent far away to other places such as Canada and Mexico where there isn't going to be the same scrutiny of the public and the law and the USDA?

Let the hundreds of thousands of horses who starve and die from neglect rot?

Whine about it on forums online?

Who knows.

I love horses, but life is life. Sad as that is.

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post #5 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 11:36 AM
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Also there seems to be some sort of flaw in your logic.

Have you ever been to an auction house ANYWHERE in the US right now?

From Virginia to California? It's a Kill Buyers Dream.

You know what a Kill Buyer said to me a few months ago while I fought him to unload a huge Irish Draught Sport Horse off his trailer? BIG and dappled gray with black mane and tail. He was beautiful.

"He's worth more dead than alive right now." and he made a slicing motion across his neck and walked away. People who buy and sell horse meat are not at a loss for stock right now. I really doubt they are sneaking off in the night whisking away little Susie's pony Merry Legs. All they have to do is have a couple hundred bucks and a trailer and pull into any auction house right now and leave with a full trailer.

The last auction I was at a large Percheron gelding, rode in by a boy was sold to a KB for 50 dollars. A pair of unbroke Arabian colts were sold for 25 dollars EACH to a KB.

The Irish Draught I tried so hard to get off the trailer was sold for 250. He was at least 17.1 and the first one put in the trailer and the KB wouldn't unload the seven other horses so I could get that boy off.
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I think what she was talking about is the cases where a family pet WAS stolen and butchered. I saw a few news reports of it happening somewhere in new york (?) apparently there is a demand for horse meat over there, and horses are getting butchered in a far more inhumane way than they ever would at a slaughter house.
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post #7 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 11:45 AM
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As sad as it is, I have to agree with Rissa. She nailed it on a lot of points.

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post #8 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 11:56 AM
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I think what she was talking about is the cases where a family pet WAS stolen and butchered. I saw a few news reports of it happening somewhere in new york (?) apparently there is a demand for horse meat over there, and horses are getting butchered in a far more inhumane way than they ever would at a slaughter house.

Ah. Well. I guess some kind of facts, details, links or information would have gotten her point across a lot better.
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post #9 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 12:22 PM
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I believe it was in FL that they were/are having that problem too....
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post #10 of 102 Old 10-24-2009, 12:50 PM
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Unfortunately we have to face the fact that there is a large market for horse meat. Here where I live, it is sold in the grocery stores, in restaurants and there are special butcher shops that sell just horse. I think the "on the hoof" price is around $1 per pound now. There are many breeds that are bred and used for horse meat. Those animals who breed qualities do not merit the highest of standards are culled and sold for the meat. The Swiss Franche Montagne is an example. Many people purchase horse meat as an alternative to beef as it is less expensive. The market will continue to exist as long as the demand is there.
Supply and demand.
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