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post #91 of 102 Old 10-26-2009, 10:19 PM
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have not read the whole thread so I might be totally OT by this point...

there is a person about 2 miles down the highway from me that keeps his horses in deplorable conditions. They are ribby, and gangly looking and it's obvious he treats them with no respect. Last week, I finally found out why: He breeds them to eat. NOT KIDDING. He waits until the horses are 3 and then eats them. He keeps a select stallion and some broodmares. Now, I don't know if he sells them to anyone else. Believe me, this has been reported numerous times. What do they do about it? NOTHING.

I think horse slaughter is disgusting. However, I would be a hypocrite (sp) if I were to say this and then eat meat. That is the main reason I am a vegetarian. The way any sort of meat is processed and taken from an animal is absolutely revolting to me..

bleh

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post #92 of 102 Old 10-26-2009, 10:27 PM
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I don't see how that would be THE reason why they are in that condition. All the animals that I have for the dinner table are well cared for. Really all my animals. I want a nice plump healthy chicken on my plate, not a skinny unhealthy thing. ick
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post #93 of 102 Old 10-26-2009, 10:29 PM
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no, that's where I get all my FACTS from.

No sceintific articles or journals? No unbaised information? No information that was researched by people who don't just have a bone to pick? I would say if your getting all your facts from youtube you need to cast the net a little wider. At the very least if you're getting your facts from one source you need to look very carefully at who is putting the information out there. Statistics, video, and even research can be skewed very easily by anyone to prove a point.

That said there's plenty of actual research done that shows both the benefits and detriments to eating meat. The same goes for vegan lifestyles. If you actually read the research that has been done the key thing to a healthy body is moderation in everything.
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Please close this topic!

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post #95 of 102 Old 10-26-2009, 10:39 PM
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yeah I think the reason they are skinny is because he has about five horses per acre at minimum. But you are right, it doesn't make sense that he is keeping them skinny for consumption. I think that is just the way it worked out with the overcrowded pastures

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post #96 of 102 Old 10-27-2009, 12:05 AM
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ok, but the methods today are way worse than those.I read a book that I got from the library called slaughterhouse and OMG! that book is enough to turn a meat lover vegetarian.
I am just curious how you know this?

How old are you? Have you been around for the last 600 years? Did you take a tally of how animals were killed for food all over the world 150 years ago and that's what you're comparing things to?

I'm so confused by nearly everything you say.

If you're like twelve then I'm REALLY sorry about the harshness and I will understand your points of view so much better.


Also I'm very picky about the propaganda I read. Some people are easy to sway. Ask Goebbels. Almost nearly off topic but every time you exclaim to READ SLAUGHTERHOUSE I think Slaughterhouse Five. lol@myself.

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then why didn't the slaughter plants just stay opened? why didn't they just give the meat away if the population/neglect problem is so bad or is going to be very bad.

Uhh. Because if they ran a factory like that and GAVE the meat away how would they pay the employees? Or you know, utilities?

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post #97 of 102 Old 10-27-2009, 12:11 AM
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havent read every single post on this, so may be repeating, but surely everyone can at least agree that there needs to be drastic steps taken to ensure that transportation handling and the entire process is is handled as humanely and stress free as poossible? what concerns me is that some of the posts i have read seem to suggest that if it is ok to, in thier opinion, to eat horse meat, then it is best not to question too closely the method of achieving "processing" as it is called- in my opinion that is an inhumane and heartless term in itself.- no horse or any other animal should have to be subjected to a long journey to another country or even across a long distance, and although i personally think horse meat should be banned, as they such a sensitive and intelligent animal, and should not be used in this way, i think that if it is not banned then it is far preferable to greatly tighten up every aspect of the industry. and i want to state that in my opinion, it is deplorable and inexcuseable to send a horse which has given an owner service throughout its life, to a slaughterhouse, to end its days. because it can be done at home, humanely. unfortuneately there are some people who want to get the last few bucks... i am sorry if thats not what people want to hear, or it makes people uncomfortable, or defensive, or agressive, but if that is the case, perhaps those people should be questioning there own beliefs, and not the people who are brave enough to speak out againgst something they strongly think is wrong. i perosnally applaud anyone who speaks out on the behalf of the welfare of horses- any horse, bred for whatever purpose, is deserving of compassion and integrity of handling, throughout its life, and to say or act otherwise is wrong.
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Lillie - I think everyone agrees that there is always room for improvement in the process of slaughter (or raising) of any livestock.

Some of us seem to think that re-opening slaughter houses is good for various reasons: give final value to horses, feed people, reduce unwanted horse population, and some people/cultures just like the taste of horse.

Others seem to think that if you consider horse slaughter something that should be re-opened in the US you're a terrible person who doesn't care about horses.

Would I send my horses to slaughter? No way. If something catastrophic happened and I couldn't feed my family, would I eat my horse? Yup (my neice's life is more important IMHO). If someone else likes horse meat and wants to obtain it should they be able to do so? Yes, IMHO anyways. I'm not talking about the FL cases where people are butchering someone else's horse w/o permission. That's just wrong on a lot of levels. But they should be able to go to the grocery store and buy a horse steak.
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post #100 of 102 Old 10-27-2009, 07:35 AM
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Please close this topic!
Like I said. No REAL information. Now OP's bailing out because she sees no way to prove her 'points'.

I'll listen to you if you get off YouTube, and do some REAL research. Then I might start to listen.

Until then. Have a fun time.

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