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        10-25-2009, 10:59 AM
      #21
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by alli09    
    where are you getting your facts from? If the police found out you were breeding horses and butchering them and eating them on your property that would be considered animal cruelty and you will get fined for it.
    Sorry but where are you getting YOUR facts from? I live in Wy and MT, I seem to bounce allot. Anyways, I would be charged with animal cruelty if I did not house or care for my animal. I would not be charged with animal curelty for killling my livestock. What is the difference between a horse and a cow? They are both listed under LIVESTOCK. I can take a horse, cow, chicken, rabbit, goose, whatever and kill it and process it. I can even take a horse to a regular butcher shop and get it processed. (mind they have to be willing to). Now if I lived in Michigan, I know they have a "humane euthinasa" law. I would probably be charged with animal cruelty, But I for sure will never live in Michigan or California (who is the only state actually to ban horse meet from the dinner table) for that reason. Different states have different laws. Im sure not going end up in the rediculus ones, . For sure they will all end up as vegitarians with time. :S So please do your research before you call me on my FACTS.
         
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        10-25-2009, 11:55 AM
      #22
    Green Broke
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    Im sure not going end up in the rediculus ones, . For sure they will all end up as vegitarians with time.
    Please don't make assumptions like this. I'm from Michigan and I can guarantee you I won't become a vegetarian based on our horse slaughter laws. :)

    The original post of this thread was regarding the illegal stealing and killing of horses in FL. One slaughter thread has recently been closed and this one is close to getting the same as it has gone off topic, there is no progress being made and the posts are getting rude.
         
        10-25-2009, 12:10 PM
      #23
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by 3neighs    
    Please don't make assumptions like this. I'm from Michigan and I can guarantee you I won't become a vegetarian based on our horse slaughter law.
    I am sorry if I had offended you with that. Its just if you let the gov. Decide what you can and cannot do with your horse. Like putting it down or not eating it, what Else can they tell you can't do? It just leads to more and more gov. Influence on things they should not have. Example: They can say you can no longer eat a chicken because they are inhumanely killed.
    I saw they closed the other post, one of the reasons because of false facts. I wanted to make sure the facts were known. That its illegal to sell horse meet. Its illegal to eat horse in Cali. It is illegal to shoot your own horse in Michigan. It is not illegal in most other states to kill or eat horse in most states.
         
        10-25-2009, 01:21 PM
      #24
    Foal
    Wow, touchy subject.
    I think I'd personally raise hell in the UK if they closed our slaughterhouses. I can't believe we only have 2, for the amount of crap England is spouting out in the Showing, Natives and Racehorse department we need at least 4.

    I can't imagine the neglect cases that have arisen since this, well, law came into effect in the States.
    I already knew the USA alone had a lot of horses, but banning slaughter? Seriously? Wow.

    Everything that Rissa's typed, I 100% agree with.

    For real "ZOMG they're hurting the pretty ponies." Check Europe and Asia out.
    The Eastern Europeans breed Comtois, Bretons, Ardennes etc; in the masses for the sale in Maraus and the trip to Italy.
    For those on the France Italy border, meh, not a long trip so it's only the rancid slaughter method they have to look forward too.
    Not too mention the ones that come in from Poland.

    In Asia they'll breed anything they get they hands on, use them for fighting then have yummy horse soup at the fight.
    Nice.

    Horses are livestock, no matter what way you look at it, they live, they breathe, they die, just like any animal.
    I love Cows, Horses and Sheep alike not forgetting Chickens, hence why I'm a vegetarian.
    I fail to see what makes horses so much more superior to any other animal.

    It just seems like a never ending argument on the whole subject.
         
        10-25-2009, 01:59 PM
      #25
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by flamingauburnmustang    
    LOL.

    Well, in a way China is helping to reduce numbers in human population, but then again they are the one's eating all these weird animals like cats and snakes. You just never win, do you?

    Well. Italy and Russia buy horse meat. French people eat snails. Dogs are consumed in cambodia.

    I don't think Chinese people are the only ones who eat weird things. Though in my opinion we all eat weird things. Ever really looked into what goes I into fast food?

    Look up Balut. Popular with the Asian culture.
         
        10-25-2009, 02:44 PM
      #26
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rissa    
    Well. Italy and Russia buy horse meat. French people eat snails. Dogs are consumed in cambodia.

    I don't think Chinese people are the only ones who eat weird things. Though in my opinion we all eat weird things. Ever really looked into what goes I into fast food?

    Look up Balut. Popular with the Asian culture.
    Very true...
         
        10-25-2009, 03:53 PM
      #27
    Foal
    I hate seeing people talking about animal meat like they aren't living things and like they don't have just as much of a right to live as us.
         
        10-25-2009, 06:31 PM
      #28
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alli09    
    I hate seeing people talking about animal meat like they aren't living things and like they don't have just as much of a right to live as us.
    I flipped through this discussion awhile back so I can't remember - Are you a vegetarian?

    I eat meat, my body was designed to consume both plants and animals. Once, I raised an Angus beef calf that was half blind. He could not have led a full, comfortable life, so when he was a good yearling size we took him to the butcher. Did I cry? Absolutely. Did I eat the meat or let it rot? I ate it.

    At least we, as higher mammals, can humanely kill our food. Most of us don't go and maul our prey like a lion would, or drown it like an alligator, or slowly choke it like a snake. In our history, we eat what we kill, we kill what we need, and we thank the animal and God for the life that it gave to nourish another. Today, we ARE a wasteful nation, but we still gotta eat.

    It is your right to not eat meat, but it is our nature as omnivores to eat both.

    Would I eat horse? If it were cooked and offered to me, I would. Just like I would try alligator, rattlesnake, etc.... Would I eat my own horse? Not unless something catastrophic happened (war or disaster) and that was the only food available and both of us were starving to death, then I probably would. It isn't on my list to run out and try.
         
        10-25-2009, 06:34 PM
      #29
    Green Broke
    ^ - Then don't read. You can hate it all you want but it's a fact of life.

    It's called a food chain. Through whatever intelligence we managed to get away with in the great plan of evolution, it's ultimately put us at the top. I don't agree with the WAY we mass produce and consume animals, I'd be much happier if we saw a return to hunting and processing our OWN food instead of depending on mass corporations to feed us, but that's the way it is.

    I'd definitely try horse if I was given the chance. Meat is meat, and I find it very repulsive how people think it's not okay to slaughter horses, but somehow it's fine to lock cows and pigs and chickens into tiny crates for their entire miserable lives and then die a death much more horrific then most horses experience.

    Nobody is talking about animals like they're not living creatures. Don't make silly assumptions please just to further your own sense of right and wrong. We all own horses. We all love animals. We all do whatever we can in life to make them happy and comfortable and fight for them when the rights they DO have are being taken away.

    Horrific things happen to animals every day in the wild. They starve, they get sick, they get injured, or they get eaten alive - slowly. Animals don't live in a rainbow molly coddled world just because we do, and we all do our best to ensure our beloved pets don't suffer. So I really don't see the issue in killing animals for food - that's simply what they are in the ultimate aspect. Prey animals exist for one purpose - to feed the carnivores. At least we're in a position to make it easier on them then being taken down by a pack of wolves or a cougar, and yes I agree we should live up to and fulfill that position but the answer does not lie in the ban of slaughter.
         
        10-25-2009, 06:39 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    We need to go back to the time when a piglet or two were kept in the backyard. It was fed all the leftover scraps -which would lower our landfill mass - then which ever Holiday it was prime sized for, we say Grace and we eat it.

    Then as our children grow up, it isn't such a shock when they find out the meat in the pretty packages they eat comes from living animals.
         

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