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        10-26-2009, 05:10 PM
      #81
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by CrazyH0rse    
    es talking about unhealthy diets thought where there are fried grease loaded foods for every meal. Im pretty sure not everyone has

    B&E for every breakfast
    Cheeseburgers for every lunch
    Fried foods for ever supper
    Ice cream for every desert.

    Believe it or not some people do eat vegetables,fruits,nuts,fibre and other foods with benefits
    you have to watch more than just the first part.
         
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        10-26-2009, 05:16 PM
      #82
    Foal
    I did but he doesn't mention healthy lifestyles he just assumed we all eat crap for every meal which isn't the case. And as long as you do exercise daily and have everything in moderation it does work out better. Also the person he took blood from admitted to having a greasy food before he had his blood taken which would have skewed his blood fat content because it didnt have time to get removed out of his system. Most meals are usually three to four hours apart for when I eat so I'm not really worried also I do try to exercise daily. I'm not perfect but I do try. Yes dairy products have fat but they also have benefits such as calcium among others. He only talked about negative side effects.
         
        10-26-2009, 05:52 PM
      #83
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CrazyH0rse    
    I did but he doesn't mention healthy lifestyles he just assumed we all eat crap for every meal which isn't the case. And as long as you do exercise daily and have everything in moderation it does work out better. Also the person he took blood from admitted to having a greasy food before he had his blood taken which would have skewed his blood fat content because it didnt have time to get removed out of his system. Most meals are usually three to four hours apart for when I eat so I'm not really worried also I do try to exercise daily. I'm not perfect but I do try. Yes dairy products have fat but they also have benefits such as calcium among others. He only talked about negative side effects.
    I guess what I'm getting at is if you want to be even healthier there is a way to do it.I don't want to get this closed so I'm going to stop talking all that now.
         
        10-26-2009, 09:19 PM
      #84
    Trained
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    ever heard of high cholesterol? How do you think people get it? No matter how fresh your meat is, it is still going to have saturated fat.

    Here's a great video that every meat eater/dairy consumer should watch and if you still eat meat or consume dairy after you watch this then you don't care about your health(just got to youtube to watch the rest):
    Lol! Why do you think vegans have to eat a poopload of supplements and STILL generally have lower bone density, among other diet caused problems and deficiencies?

    My dad has genetic heart problems; He has watched his diet ever since he was a child, and he still had to go to hospital to have a stint put in an artery that was 90% blocked.

    I know TONS of people who eat meat and dairy and have perfectly healthy cholesterol levels.

    I eat meat and dairy every day and have perfectly healthy cholesterol.

    How many top athletes are vegans? I would be interested to find out.

    Mostly people get high cholesterol levels by eating an unhealthy, unbalanced diet, and not adequatly excercising. If going vegan was a 'cure' for high cholesterol, why don't doctors recommend it?

    I can't watch youtube video's on this computer, but:

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    I did but he doesn't mention healthy lifestyles he just assumed we all eat crap for every meal which isn't the case. And as long as you do exercise daily and have everything in moderation it does work out better. Also the person he took blood from admitted to having a greasy food before he had his blood taken which would have skewed his blood fat content because it didnt have time to get removed out of his system.
    To me it sounds like the video is a skewed, one-sided piece of anti-meat/dairy propaganda. For it to be considered a reliable source, it would need to take samples from NUMEROUS people - Those who have healthy diets, those who don't, those who eat meat and dairy, those who don't, those who excercise regularly, those who don't. Does it do this?
         
        10-26-2009, 09:32 PM
      #85
    Green Broke
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    just got to youtube to watch the rest
    THIS right here is the problem. Get OFF freaking YouTube.
         
        10-26-2009, 09:46 PM
      #86
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alli09    
    I guess what I'm getting at is if you want to be even healthier there is a way to do it.I don't want to get this closed so I'm going to stop talking all that now.
    I would say its healthier all diet patterns have their positives and negatives. That's fine if you want to stop though I can stop aswell.
         
        10-26-2009, 10:04 PM
      #87
    Started
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    Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
    Good gravy. Did the asylum bus crash around here and nobody informed me? Or are we just having a regular "pot calling the kettle black" week?

    rockyxpony - EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion. And quite frankly, the only attacking I see occurring, and the source of the generated rudeness is coming from the people on YOUR side of the fence. You just managed to single handedly in your post tell us we're bonkers for thinking they way we do. And yet, in my post, I told alli09 that it was good for her to have an opinion.

    I am not trying to change anyone's opinion, the point I'm trying to make is that don't make up lame reasons with holes in them to support your opinion. If you don't like slaughter, fine, but don't lash out at those who have a differing opinion, and don't attempt to debate if the best you can do is "because I said so, THAT'S WHY!" That doesn't make it true.

    Nobody called you or anybody else "crazy". I am MORE then willing to listen to what someone has to say, but I am a realist and a debater by nature. If you want to present an arguement, I'm going to debate that arguement. Debates VERY rarely result in either opinion being swayed, it is merely an exchange of facts that is SUPPOSED to leave both parties feeling like maybe they learned something.

    I'll never understand why people get so angry during a debate and feel it neccesary to hurl insults. It's like they're personally being attacked and become so narrow minded they just shut themselves down to outside views. I am not trying to change anyone's view, I am merely attempting to explain MY side of the view. It's not my fault if people just become angry when I do so. Don't make assumptions that everyone that disagrees with you is trying to "change" you.
    easy, tiger!
    Most of my post I was talking to alli ONLY, and I specifically stated that. All I said that may have been directed towards you is that it makes people disrespect your opinions when you lose yourself and start to make personal attacks, which I'm fairly sure I recall seeing..
    I have insulted absolutely no one in my posts. Calm down. XD maybe you should take the time to read what I say before freaking out on me.
         
        10-26-2009, 10:09 PM
      #88
    Green Broke
    What was the point of this thread again?
         
        10-26-2009, 10:15 PM
      #89
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Sunny06    
    What was the point of this thread again?
    check the first page.
         
        10-26-2009, 10:19 PM
      #90
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sunny06    
    THIS right here is the problem. Get OFF freaking YouTube.
    no, that's where I get all my FACTS from.
         

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