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post #21 of 65 Old 10-31-2009, 01:04 AM
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Rather than not eating meat, which makes very little effect, in my opinion, we need to fight for LAWS for ethical treatment of animals. Not everyone in this world is going to be a vegan... sorry it's never going to happen. But, if everyone could be educated on how horribly we treat animals, all over the world, maybe we can change THE TREATMENT of animals.

and wow, whatever they were skinning and it was still alive, that sent a shiver down me... UGH how disgusting. How can we treat other souls like that? I believe in something a lot like hinduism, personally, and it's DISGUSTING to treat animals less then us. We're one.

Honestly though, most of the world can't even treat OTHER HUMANS with any shred of respect... so how are they expected to treat animals that way?
that is why I am embarrassed to be this species.

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post #22 of 65 Old 10-31-2009, 01:37 AM
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post #23 of 65 Old 10-31-2009, 02:44 AM
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ugh!!! yes there are horrible sluaghter places but not all of them are. These people only show the bad ones, that should be shut down, but there are good kind ones out there. Cows were made to be eaten!! im sick of all this poor cows poor animals, they should not be eaten, bla bla bla. if we didnt do anything with them, we would be overrun with cows and other animals!!
About the cow part.. How do you know cows were made to be eaten? Did you make them? How would you like to be cooked up tonight to satisfy someone?
I realize that many of you have different opinions on this.. but you cannot assume that cows were meant to be eaten jjust because you eat them.
I believe that its the way of life, and the food chain. Lions and tigers and other predators eat weaker animals (prey).. to survive.
I agree that eating meat is okay for people and it is not cruel most of the time.
But, what makes me mad, is when people eat meat nonstop and thats all they ever eat, sausage for breakfast, burgers for lunch, and ribs for dinner.
That disturbs me, because you dont need that much meat!! Only eat it when you need it. At the max. once per day. You dont need meat all the the time to survive.. do you?
Also, we dont need to kill animals for no reason either. like for fur fashion. You dont need a gorgeous designer fur coat to survive. NO. We are an advanced society, we have heaters, blankets, jackets houses etc.
I hate it when people take advantage of the world we have today, when many dont have even near to what we have.

Anyways.. to add it all up. I am a vegitarian, I always will be. I am still healthy. I eat seafood, eggs, beans for protein. Lots of fruits and veggies.
I dont hate people who eat meat. I dont disagree with it, I just really dont like it. Go ahead, eat your meat, I wont say rude remarks like some other people.
The thing I disagree with, is the inhumane slaughtering of animals. If you slaughter them painlessly and quickly, Im fine with that. They dont suffer dying. But, to make them suffer for more than a few seconds, is pure cruel. Would you rather be bled to death for several minutes, even hours before you die! OR.. would you rather be shot in the head, and be gone that very second, then to feel the pain.
Thats JMO

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ugh!!! yes there are horrible sluaghter places but not all of them are. These people only show the bad ones, that should be shut down, but there are good kind ones out there. Cows were made to be eaten!! im sick of all this poor cows poor animals, they should not be eaten, bla bla bla. if we didnt do anything with them, we would be overrun with cows and other animals!!
you know what all you said is called? Propaganda.

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But, what makes me mad, is when people eat meat nonstop and thats all they ever eat, sausage for breakfast, burgers for lunch, and ribs for dinner.
That disturbs me, because you dont need that much meat!! Only eat it when you need it. At the max. once per day. You dont need meat all the the time to survive.. do you?
Also, we dont need to kill animals for no reason either. like for fur fashion. You dont need a gorgeous designer fur coat to survive. NO. We are an advanced society, we have heaters, blankets, jackets houses etc.
I hate it when people take advantage of the world we have today, when many dont have even near to what we have.
What does it matter the amounts of meat people eat if they're going to eat it nonetheless? If I don't eat it, someone else will. It's already out there. I have no problem with anyone being a vegetarian or vegan, but I eat meat. I enjoy sausage with my eggs, a burger for lunch, and steak for dinner.

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What does it matter the amounts of meat people eat if they're going to eat it nonetheless? If I don't eat it, someone else will. It's already out there. I have no problem with anyone being a vegetarian or vegan, but I eat meat. I enjoy sausage with my eggs, a burger for lunch, and steak for dinner.

Have you ever used a leather saddle and reins? What about your riding boots? Synethetic or leather?
It matters, because not as many animals will be slaughtered if everyone cuts back on their meat.. you dont need that much meat to survive, and the only reason we eat food is to keep our bodies running.
I never said I had anything wrong with you, good for you. But, IMO, it bothers me when people are chomping down ribs till their stuffed.

Omg, dont think Im like one of those people who are like THAT. I have no problem with any of that. The only thing I have a problem with is inhumane slaughter and cruelty. If we all cut back on meat, less animals would be slaughtered, and the chance of them being slaughtered inhumanely will be reduced.

Yes. I use leather saddles and bridles. My riding boots are leather.
As I said, I have no problem with it.

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[quote=horseluver50;444985] If we all cut back on meat, less animals would be slaughtered, and the chance of them being slaughtered inhumanely will be reduced.
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Unfortunately, that's being a bit too idealistic. I would LOVE if inhumane slaughter was done away with, but I don't think reducing the amount of meat people consume is realistic.

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Unfortunately, that's being a bit too idealistic. I would LOVE if inhumane slaughter was done away with, but I don't think reducing the amount of meat people consume is realistic.
Are you serious? Its not unrealistic.. Some people ONLY eat meat, Im just saying a little bit.. just cut back a little bit. Do you think the world goes green in just one day. I bet the first person who thought of that, they were made fun of, and told, that is unrealistic. It may not happen, but it can get greener.
Not completely green, but better than it was.
Same with meat consumption, I just think if you cut back a tiny bit a day, you are not wasting.
Did you know that cows actually pollute the world? Their farts are harmful gases like cars. When people raise tons of them for meat, its polluting the world.

Im just saying this for information. But, Im not really all about it or follow it or anything.
Doesnt matter to me what you do.. its your life, and what makes you happy makes you happy :)
Im not one of those people thats like "Dont eat meat. Dont ride horses.... etc."
Def. not me. Im just giving facts that support what Im trying to explain from another point of view :)

Anyways yeah.. forget i said anything.. all I meant by what I said was that I hate inhumane slaughter. Thats all. Im sure everyone in the right mind and heart does.

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Are you serious? Its not unrealistic.. Some people ONLY eat meat, Im just saying a little bit.. just cut back a little bit. Do you think the world goes green in just one day. I bet the first person who thought of that, they were made fun of, and told, that is unrealistic. It may not happen, but it can get greener.
Not completely green, but better than it was.
Same with meat consumption, I just think if you cut back a tiny bit a day, you are not wasting.
Did you know that cows actually pollute the world? Their farts are harmful gases like cars. When people raise tons of them for meat, its polluting the world.

Im just saying this for information. But, Im not really all about it or follow it or anything.
Doesnt matter to me what you do.. its your life, and what makes you happy makes you happy :)
Im not one of those people thats like "Dont eat meat. Dont ride horses.... etc."
Def. not me. Im just giving facts that support what Im trying to explain from another point of view :)

Anyways yeah.. forget i said anything.. all I meant by what I said was that I hate inhumane slaughter. Thats all. Im sure everyone in the right mind and heart does.
I was going to keep following this thread without saying anything, but the argument that cows emit enough methane to heavily affect global warming has always irked me.

Someone could also argue for humans to drink less milk, therefore reducing the need for dairy cows that burp and fart just as much as the cows that are slaughtered for meat.

Cow burps and farts contribute about 3.5% of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. The majority of it comes from burning gasoline in the vehicles we drive (17%); 12% of greenhouse gas emissions comes from generating electricity, such as lighting, TVs, computers, refridgerators, etc.; industrial manufacturing makes up for 2%; burning jet fuel contributes 3%;...you get the picture.

Looking at it from an economic point of view, if a portion of the country reduced their beef intake, the resulting drop in prices in the industry's desperation to sell sell sell would spur on the remaining population to buy buy buy more beef and dairy products at the new lower prices. Beef would also then become a more popular foreign export in order to keep the profits up, so no matter how you look at it, us meat eaters eating less steaks and pot roast really won't be of much significance.

Okay, that's off my chest now. Sorry for hijacking the thread. Bottom line: Inhumane slaughter = BAD.

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haha. yeah, i just remember someone saying something about cow farts :/
But, yeah, inhumane slaughter and cruel people are just cruel and should be shot.

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