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        12-02-2008, 04:46 PM
      #21
    Trained
    Cattlemen are greedy. So is the BLM. Humanity is greedy.
    I don't care if you think cattlemen or whatever you want to call them are pigs or if they are the american hero. The fact of the matter is we have a surplus of horses we can't do anything with. 30,000 horses being adopted by one person is a great act of charity on paper but are these horses going to get proper care? Any training at all? Will they have homes for life?

    These horses didn't CHOOSE to be here. We can't just kill them all off or shove them in holding pens for all of eternity. It's our fault they are here in this situation in the first place. We need to fix what we started.

    I agree with the plan of contraceptive for these horses. I was reading an article for a type of Depo Provera for them. We do not need to breed anymore of these horses, we need to find a way to control it. It's that or we start euthanising these horses. I'm glad somone adopted them, but I think it was a short-sighted plan.
         
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        12-03-2008, 11:33 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    Hmmm, as a consumer of the beef industry, I don't mind the beef prices going down. Makes it easier to feed my family. You go western cattlemen!
         
        12-04-2008, 09:09 AM
      #23
    Weanling
    Well, you can make money thru cattle and care about the enviroment and the wild horses as well. I DO know a cattle racher (albeit he has a 'small' outfit, only a couple hundred head) and he is an advocate of the wild horse as much as me.

    Greed is not making money. Greed is when money is more important than anything else.

    I work my BUTT OFF, thank you, and NOT at the expense of anyone or anything, which is why I CHOSE nursing as my career. I cudda gone into, say, horses, training them, buying and selling them, boarding them- but if that was my only means of money I would hafta compromise my ideals about horses somewhere along the way, and I didn't want to do that, so I DIDN"T make horses my career, instead nursing is (and I do home health care right now.) I wouldn't want to have my means of money would HAVE TO mean I couldn't care for and fight for the rights of animals that have just as much right to be here as I do, but can't because they ain't making some HUMAN money....
         
        12-04-2008, 09:14 AM
      #24
    Weanling
    Personally I don't know any livestock producers that feel money is more important then anything else and I know alot of them. And they fight and care about animal welfare very seriously.
         
        12-04-2008, 09:22 AM
      #25
    Weanling
    While I personally know of one guy who does, and he says there are others, there are still those who don't care and all they do care about is money, and since they are that way they tend to have more money and can do more. (They go from just cattlemen to being 'lobbyists'). And they ARE interested in NO competition for grazing lands. I have even heard it said they wished every 'worthless range rat' was rounded up and shot. Heerd it wid my own ears, I did.

    Being a cattleman doesn't make you greedy or bad, and I hope that isn't what is read. But MANY cattlemen are lobbyists AGAINST the wild horses, and I would dub those 'greedy'. (But still not 'bad guys', but greedy definitely applies to most any lobbyist.)
         
        12-04-2008, 09:25 AM
      #26
    Weanling
    For sure there are some, I have a daughter that's an Rn and a SIL that is. They have told me some people in the nursing feild are greedy and in it just for money.
         
        12-04-2008, 10:25 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    There are bad apples in every bunch, there is no doubt of that.

    But the very NATURE of the field doesn't invite the competitition with the mustangs, or anything else.
         
        12-04-2008, 04:39 PM
      #28
    Chat Moderator
    Those people don't last long, when the start thinking the way. In the old days those horses went seen as sort of an extra cash crop, tough range mounts all there, and maybe bred them to a good stud and you have a tougher than nails horse with the size you need.

    I think some of those "ain't" feel that after that lost that control over those mounts and their numbers exploded.
         
        12-04-2008, 08:12 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    I sure hope you are right.
         
        12-05-2008, 02:22 AM
      #30
    Chat Moderator
    When they are just there for the money. They will start looking for ways to cut corners: buying cheaper replacement stocks (mainy in their replacemant bulls), less lower the quaility of the stock that is sold, cutting corners on repairs either on fences and. Machinary. This leads to higher bills later and and countless other problems. Then after these problems show themselves, someone with a large pocketbook shows up and offers them x amount of money for their place and they see the money and take it.
         

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