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    10-17-2013, 12:09 AM
  #11
Weanling
It's the morality of the whole thing. Let me ask you a question? Would you breed and continue to breed knowing that the majority of your foals will go to slaughter?
     
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    10-17-2013, 02:55 PM
  #12
Weanling
I know a lot of the horses aren't in the best condition - this is why they are in the position they are - but looking at Lucky Starz facebook page shows the success stories (and some sad ones too) of horses saved and rehomed by the EOTL placement - and these poor animals are now loving life!
I don't know much about the slaughter industry - most of my info is seen on sites like this and posts on other social networking sites, but at the end of the day, these poor animals didn't ask to be abused, starved and then shipped off to slaughter - they didn't ask to be born, we made that decision for them! I have a mare and foal - she was put in foal by my sons ex gf who was going to make horse breeding her life long career - I didn't agree with this (I have my dogs neutered so they can't have pups - I think there's enough around) and a month after the "deed", she decided that it wasn't for her and we were left with a pregnant mare, very little knowledge (count none!), and not a whole lot of time to learn everything about foaling! But, we owed it to Fox to do the best by her, we called the farrier, vet and got a list of what we needed to know. I did an online equine nutrition course so I know what she should be fed, learned how to poultice an abscess (typical TB hooves - bad!) watched every video on birthing (bad and good) I could, and we now have a healthy big 7 month old foal who is to be gelded in the next few weeks. I would have never bred Fox, and we now have another foal in the world! Hopefully, we'll be keeping him - we have someone coming to help us train him when we need it (manners etc) but I would have NEVER bred in the first place or ever again as there's horses needing homes everywhere! We simply don't need anymore foals, as cute as they are. So come on everyone, lets help in any way we can - whether it's EOTL or any other rescue and please please think carefully before breeding - one day your lovely little foal may be one of these waiting for slaughter.........
     
    10-17-2013, 03:00 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by bitinsane    
Sorry you could not make sense of my post. We obviously have very different views on animals whether it just be "livestock". To me, you comparing horses to cattle in this situation makes no sense. People don't say hey I'm going to breed this cow in hopes for a racing prospect and then turn it to slaughter because it hasn't performed. Cows are generally bred for food. The racing industry isn't breeding these horses for food purposes. They are breeding for their own selfish hopes in finding the next Kentucky derby winner. I do not think it's OK to say hey you are not going to win me any money to hell with you, when your intentions on the breeding's are not for food etc..
Can we not turn this into a debate on how horrible racing is and how selfish people are. There are as many grade/other breeds being run through the slaughterhouses as there are TBs...
     
    10-17-2013, 03:30 PM
  #14
Showing
Simply put nice that you brought attention to an issue that means a lot to you but not everyone will care as much as you do. We are now aware and can make our own choices from here. No amount of debating about other tangents relating to slaughter will change that.

My next horse will be another rehabilitation project because I feel happiest giving them a good home, however I will not go out of my way to rescue a horse bound for slaughter. I don't let my emotions rule my decisions.
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    10-17-2013, 03:42 PM
  #15
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Reckyroo - While your intentions are worthy might I just dare to say that every week there are horses being abandoned and neglected in the UK where you live - awful cases and horses in large numbers flooding into Rescue Centres that are already bursting at the seams and you are donating money to a US scheme that helps private individuals buy a horse from a Feed Lot that they might not be able to afford to keep if it turns out to have really bad health or behavioral problems
If people truly want to help they would do better to donate direct to Rescues and charities that know what they're doing and can give the expert care and attention that's needed
If someone badly wants to take on a rescue horse they can take one from a centre that's already been assessed and rehabilitated which then frees up a space for another horse in need to fill.
     
    10-17-2013, 04:03 PM
  #16
Weanling
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Originally Posted by jaydee    
Reckyroo - While your intentions are worthy might I just dare to say that every week there are horses being abandoned and neglected in the UK where you live - awful cases and horses in large numbers flooding into Rescue Centres that are already bursting at the seams and you are donating money to a US scheme that helps private individuals buy a horse from a Feed Lot that they might not be able to afford to keep if it turns out to have really bad health or behavioral problems
If people truly want to help they would do better to donate direct to Rescues and charities that know what they're doing and can give the expert care and attention that's needed
If someone badly wants to take on a rescue horse they can take one from a centre that's already been assessed and rehabilitated which then frees up a space for another horse in need to fill.
I know you're right, it just tugs at my heartstrings - I was the child who brought birds home wrapped up in her new jumper because they had a hurt wing, and spent my school summer holidays at 10 years old bringing up 6 orphaned kittens, feeding them with an eye dropper as they were so small (all survived) instead of playing out with friends. I don't like any animals being neglected and ignored - my mare was bought for the price she would have brought for meat - I just need a big lottery win and I can rescue them all!

I am looking for a horse I can ride and have registered my interests at our local rescue centre - so fingers crossed I'll be doing my bit again over here - but the looks on these horses faces just makes me want to cry and make it all better
     
    10-17-2013, 04:19 PM
  #17
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It is sad but you can't dwell on it too much or it will get to you.
Donate your spare cash to good registered horse rescues in the UK - the situation there is almost worse because most of the unwanted horses can't be sold for meat as the passport system doesn't allow it so they are being left to starve often for long periods before someone notices them.
I hope you can find a nice horse - put your name down on every list there is and sooner or later one will come your way.
Don't forget that winters coming so prices will be going down - there will be warranted horses sold through UK auctions at very low prices as many owners don't want the cost of feeding them through the winter.
In the meantime why not volunteer at a local rescue - they appreciate all the help they can get.
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    10-19-2013, 08:04 AM
  #18
Showing
You are making the mistake of humanizing what you think you are seeing in the horse's eyes.
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    10-19-2013, 09:30 AM
  #19
Weanling
I'm am humanising what I see because i'm human!
I know these slaughterhouses will always be around, but if you look at the vidoe I first posted, the poor horse that is next in line for the gun, and visibly shaking should surely prove that there must be a kinder way to end any animals life.
These are living breathing animals and for any animal (especially a pregnant or nursing mare who would give their life to protect their young) to end up in this terrible situation where little or no care is taken on the wellbeing of the animal during the transport or actual slaughter is shocking. So yes, I am humanising what I see - I have 2 horses and have never seen this look in their eyes, ever! Because they are loved and cared for and they know it. I think a little compassion goes a long way when it comes to animals x
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    10-19-2013, 01:36 PM
  #20
Yearling
I saw something on the Lucky Starz page that really irked me. Under the post of a gelding with a badly swollen and oozing knee, a person had commented, "Good for you for taking a horse with an injury! You can always fundraise for vet expenses!"

This got to me as I have had my better share of rehabbing "lost causes" and in that pursuit I never once have asked for someone else to front the bill for a horse I couldn't afford vet care for. Now don't get me wrong, it pulls at my heart strings just as much to see the weekly horses run through, but I can identify and use my better judgement to see that a lot of the horses coming off that page will never live a comfortable life. And that's as sad as their original fate. How is buying a slaughter bound horse any different than any other purchase in terms of your financial promise to that animal? It must be nice to know that when you can't front the bill, some poor sap out there will donate to cover your irresponsible purchase.

Surely you saw the colt with the horrible pasterns? He will need expensive surgery to ever even be comfortable moving. Isn't it cruel to keep a horse like that alive for the benefit of making us less sad than it is to humanely put an end to a painful life?

It's not for the horses' well being, it's for human happiness.
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