Originally Posted by maddie
saddle seat can be soooo cruel, they put ginger or something between the horses' but cheeks so that it stings nad they lift their legs really high and and walk all wierd, also they put chains around the ankles like with TWH and they also wear these gigantic shoes that look like the equivalent to high heels and they wear them alll the time. I heard they liek wave stuff in their faces to freak them out so they look perky in shows. Lastly, look up tail setting, its so disgusting and cruel, its where they do surgery just to make the horses' tail stay up straight and I bet they don't turn their horses out... which is sacrilegious in my book
Take a look at these videos of Tennessee Walkers. http://www.twhbea.com/gaitsVideo.htm
I've ridden Saddlebreds for the last ten years, and I would just like to point out a few things.
Nobody in the Saddlebred industry has ever put ginger between a horse's butt cheeks. That doesn't make sense, and would not do anything to make the horse perform better. Saddlebred trainers put small chains around the horse's ankles, to get them to try to lift their legs out of the chains, which builds up muscle. Tennessee Walker owners put chemicals on the back of the fetlock, so they have sores there, and then put heavy chains around their ankles to rub on the sores every time they take a step. This is why the Performance Walkers in those videos can't walk right. They look ridiculous.
Here is a picture of the sores: http://www.nashvilleistalking.com/ar...horsehoof2.jpg
Saddlebreds wear the same shoes as any other horse. They do not wear big shoes.
Here is a picture of the normal Walker shoe: http://www.nashvilleistalking.com/ar...ehorsehoof.jpg
If you look closely, you can see where the hoof ends, about three inches from the ground.
Saddlebred trainers wave whips in front of the horse's face to get their ears forward. It does not "freak them out," it simply gets their attention.
The surgery to make Saddlebreds hold their tails the way they do sounds a lot worse that it is. I've heard someone say the tail is broken, and re-set to be carried up like that. That is not true. All they do is cut a ligament in the horse's tail. They sedate them, and it's completely healed in no time.
And not turning them out? That's ridiculous. You obviously don't know anything about the breed. You can't just go assuming things like that. My Saddlebreds were always turned out daily.
Take a minute and watch this video about Saddlebreds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSb6OYDzOrg
Is it not obvious to you how much pleasure those horses get out of showing off in front of a crowd? That pride is something Walkers, Fox Trotters, Morgans, Arabians, and other breeds can only hope to achieve in the show ring.
This is what Walker owners do to try to get that: http://www.silverphoenixranch.com/in...s/Page1156.htm
Look at the pictures at the bottom of that page, and tell me Saddleseat is cruel.
I saw a video about soring, but I can't find it. It had vets and farriers talking about it, it had people filming Walkers undercover before shows, and you could see the grooms rubbing chemicals on the horse's fetlocks.
It had clips of Walkers collapsing in the show ring because they can't put any more weight on their feet.
It also said that all Walkers have to go throught an inspection before going into the show ring. The inspector will rub the horse's pastern to see if he flinches, and he will check for scarring or open wounds. They had clips of horses trying to yank their feet away when the inspector touched them, and then being allowed to show. They also said that some trainers will touch a horse on his feet where it hurts, and hit him if he flinches. They train them to stand there and take the pain, so they can be shown. Look at any picture of a performance Walker in the show ring. They aren't happy.
Notice how I keep saying performance Walker. I don't have anything against flat-shod Walkers.
I don't mean to start anything, this is just something that bothers me. People that don't know about the two breeds think they look the same, and naturally assume Saddlebred owners do the same horrible things as Walker owners do.