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post #1 of 23 Old 07-05-2011, 02:39 AM Thread Starter
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ESMA - 'Egyptian Society for Mercy to Animals'

Has anyone seen any of it recently? There seems to be a fair bit on facebook.


Stands for - 'Egyptian Society for Mercy to Animals'

It's to do with the hundreds of horses/cats/dogs etc who have been starved, beaten, abused etc.

I was having a read of the horse sections and the things these horses go through, makes me so angry and sick to my stomach!

'Taken at Pyramids area, Giza, Cairo, Egypt' -

I hope it is ok to post a photo..

This was taken 09-04-11, The owner of the horses STILL allow these horses to be ridden despite of there condition and injuries/wounds.


I hope this is ok to post, it is good to know what is happening around the world!
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post #2 of 23 Old 07-05-2011, 02:53 AM
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I have never heard of this group. In fact , I would be curious as to what they are doing. I know nothing about the Koran and what is written about the treatment of animals. In fact, when life is hard on humans, and Egypt has many very poor people, it gets even harder on animals. Please share what ever you can about this group.
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post #3 of 23 Old 07-07-2011, 11:09 AM
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As much as it upsets me to see photos like that, tinyliny hit the nail on the head. When someone is starving, and his entire family is starving, the state of his horses is the last thing on his mind. Unlike in North America where we starve and abuse animals for the demented fun of it, most animals in countries like this are not being deliberately mistreated - if there is barely enough money to even feed your family, there certainly isn't any to feed the horses.

I saw a lot of this in Cuba and it broke my heart, but what are people supposed to do? I went on one trail ride that had horses in very decent condition compared to the rest of what I saw but pretty lean by our standards. I gave the man quite a bit of extra money to help feed his horses, as it was obvious he cared desperately about them.

I am all for prosecuting people who are abusive, but starvation in these countries is felt JUST as deeply by the human population as it is by the horses. These aren't 400 pound land whales who cram chocolate in their face while Bessie slowly starves to death. These people are just as thin and sickly as the horses they own. Anytime I saw a well off horse in Cuba, it had a well off owner. Anytime I saw a sickly thin horse, it had a sickly thin owner. It's just the way of life in 2nd and 3rd world countries.



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Agree with MM. When the people aren't starving, their animals won't be starving.

Most of them rely on their animals for their livelihood, so they're not intentionally starving them. There's only so much money and food to go around in 3rd world nations.

I agree that it's a tragedy, but it's a tragedy for both the humans and animals who have to endure that life.

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Uhhhh, how on earth do they have energy to stand let alone carry a rider? I see the extra padding under their saddles. It is extremely unfortunate. Those horses are "dead" while standing.
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I just looked at more of the photos on the website and I find it horrific! Those horses are worked to death! Starved....Yet there are more babies on the ground from starving mothers! I do not pity the people!
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Are you serious? You don't have any pity for people forced to eek out a horrific and terrible existence, people who never get enough to eat, children who are ALWAYS hungry? You think the welfare and wellbeing of an animal is more concerning then the welfare and wellbeing of a human life?

I do not think humans are all that high and mighty, but EQUAL levels of concern are a minimum at least. It is revolting that you can feel sorry for the animals, and actually believe that somehow the people deserve what happens to them.

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Try reading the News & Events and educating yourself a bit. The Egyptian economy and tourism sector in particular has taken a massive hit - these people are desperate for money to feed their families. When it comes down to your horse or your children starving, who do you think is going to win?

The ESMA does not judge. It is there to help, encourage and educate. If only judgmental people could do the same.

From the website:

I arrived at Sondos Stables at 11 AM, and we set up our booth and prepared for distribution. Within minutes there were over 20 horse owners with their horses lined up to receive rations. The remaining of the looted sacks (10 sacks) finished within the first 30 minutes of distribution, and had it not been for the generous 26 sacks that the locals gathered, donated, and prepared, we would have had a serious shortage.


We managed to distribute almost 300 meals for the animals, and had to turn dozens of horses away as the food supply had depleted in under 4 hours. We are in dire need of funding for food! If it weren’t for the locals donations and tremendous effort with preparing and distributing the food, today would have not been possible, and I am unsure how many of the animals, horses particularly, would have made it through the night. It was truly inspirational to see their appreciation, organization, hard work, and their willingness to have an improved and sustainable system.


To achieve this system, I believe we need to continue to provide treatments and feeds until the economy and the tourism industry start to recover. Once life starts to return to normal in terms of income for the locals, we should start to gradually withdraw the emergency aid, as they become capable of providing for their families and animals on their own.


In the mean time it is important to start an educational campaign teaching the locals the proper care for their animals, and to emphasize the relation between a healthy animal and more income. The animals are still very emaciated, and many still have wounds that need to continue being treated. Once the large organizations are fully committed to manage and handle this hige feeding and treatment operation, ESMA can start the education campaign with the leadership of Beth Sartain.

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I'm close to tears reading this. I don't understand how people can be so ignorant and judgmental as to realize life over there is NOTHING like here. Sorry for the multiple posts, but this is a HORRIFIC situation that the owners are desperate to do something about and HAVE NO MONEY. Are we so arrogant and self assuming in our lives that we believe everyone has a humane society or an animal control officer or SOME way to feed an animal?

Just do yourself a favor and read all the information under the Equine Field Reports headings.

News & events Egyptian Society for Mercy to Animals

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Below are some parts of the conversations with them :
  • The horses in normal conditions would usually be fed a combination of maize/bran/chaff and barseem (clover).
  • Horse owners believe the horse population in this area to be around 3000, they estimate about 500 camels.
  • Most could no longer feed their animals or even their families, their source of income has completely dried up…..
  • They could also no longer send their children to nursery schools
  • ‘Their statements’ – “Brooke are only stationed in one area, and apparently are there only on a Sunday….they do not mobilise themselves in most of the areas. The horse owners have to go to them. For the last two days they have had ‘no syringes’ (we heard this from many horse owners). All said The Brooke are more inclined to treat donkeys and mules rather than horses. When they do take the horses for treatment at the main hospital premises , the usual decision is to eauthanise them. They claimed that is why they do not like taking them there as they do not believe this drastic decision is neccessary in most cases, just an ‘easier’ solution for them”.
They claimed that the ‘Government assigned Vet’ was corrupt. They also claimed the ‘Government assigned Vet’ is only supposed to be assigned to any one area for a one year period. The current vet has been in the area for nearly 20 years…..They informed us that he should treat the horses for free, but always asks for money. The same applied for medications; he would sell them medications at exorbitant prices.
Another horse owner told us how he had lost five of his horses to starvation this week alone. They usually feed their horses three times per day in normal circumstances. None of the owners interviewed objected to giving out their names and numbers, and were in fact very eager to vent their frustrations….

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I never said the people deserved what is happening to them. Why are they still breeding their starving mares? They can't feed them. Those horses are better off dead. Horrific sores and wounds on a walking skeleton.

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