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    10-30-2010, 02:27 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by BarrelRacer86    
It doesn't really bother me. There's a wild cat rescue not far from where I live, you can call them and they will come shoot your dying cow or horse in the head and take the body with them to feed the cats. Just another form of euthunasia. Besides a shot to the head is alot faster than chemicals stopping the heart. And once the animal is gone, it's only the physical body left. There's alot of big time horse lovers around here that have said theyd call the Cat place if there horse dies or needs to be put down.
We have a Cat rescue around here too. Thanks to all the people that go to the circus....I wont go about it here.
I keep the number close, just in case. Why should I let good meat go to waste. I love my horses like kids, but anything else would be a waste. I olve the cats too. I als send deer carcass to a friend that feeds a raw diet to her dane. Were supposed to use it all.
     
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    10-30-2010, 05:20 PM
  #12
Weanling
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
An accurate bullet to the brain is the single most humane way to kill any animal - death is instant, no pain is felt, they're gone before they even know what happened to them. Most veterinarians will tell you it's more humane then euthanasia. My grandpa shot all of our horses when the day came they were too old to go on.

It makes zero mess, all that's left is a bullet hole in the forehead. A bullet is NOT going to poison a big cat - they are carnivores, they are on the top of the food chain, and their bodies are designed to withstand an ENORMOUS amount of toxic metal because of how much they ingest by eating lesser animals. This is precisely the reason we don't eat carnivores, and must be careful with things like sharks - the amount of toxic metal like mercury in their system from ingesting every other type of fish can be fatal to us.

I see nothing wrong with it - it makes PERFECT sense. It is an absolutely perfect system of NOT wasting. It amazes me how clinchy humans get about death - like somehow dropping a body into the dirt to rot as a corpse is preferable over using the body for a purpose and progressing the circle of life in a perfect circle. Let me guess, you wouldn't donate your organs if you died because it's just WRONG to die with a purpose and ability to help others. Your organs are much more right rotting in the ground, being eaten by worms.
Yeah, I guess ur right..but it still makes me shudder to think they'd do a whole head feeding in front of the kids! Lol. My sisters knows where their food comes from: they each had to help me pluck the turkey I was processing,and of course both little girls called me a murderer, etc. But they need to know it doesnt come out of a package at the supermarket. But I'd rather they learn it step by step, because there's a certain value in learning that the poult they picked out and I bought at the feedstore in april will be dinner in a couple weeks. As will several free roosters Im fattening. I'd rather them learn like that though than *SUPRISE!* during a wild animal park feeding And yeah, everything has a purpose, so its better than it going to waste. Just wish they could cut it up like steak cuts instead of whole. But I guess the kitties don't really care.
Heck, I guess im just a softie: I raised a steer for a 4-h project, and knew is purpose from the start. But when he got loaded on the double decker slaughter truck...I did cry.
And macabre--thats a bit of a stretch. A close friend was born with two non functioning kidneys. He received a transplant from a motorcycle accident victim about my age. He's now gettin ready to undergo another transplant (due to the last donated kidney having to be removed when he was 15--that poor kid has been thru a ton). It's amazing to see the difference someone can make in another person's life, even after you're gone. Donating could mean all the difference in the world to someone :)
Thank your all the info about the metals, too. I didnt know that! Pretty awesome stuff.
     
    11-01-2010, 08:34 AM
  #13
Banned
I totally agree with Macabre.

I do not see the head being fed while kids watched as an issue with the park as much as an issue with the parents. I highly doubt any parent thinks big cats are fed celery and veggie patties.
     
    11-01-2010, 08:46 AM
  #14
Weanling
Alwaysbehind, I have to comment.
What an appropriate avatar for the subject. HAHA
     
    11-01-2010, 08:53 AM
  #15
Banned
Giggle. Good point, Saddle.
     
    11-01-2010, 12:05 PM
  #16
Showing
I believe Big Cat Rescue in FL also ask for donating horses you plan to put down to feed those cats. I have no problem with that personally. First of all, those Cat rescues have to survive too (and they are not responsible for the mess people do by keeping "cute kitties", which are not cute anymore as they grow), second putting down and (especially) disposing the horse is very expensive (at least in my area). They do it for you for free. Now, I've been in rescue and NEVER heard and knew they are feeding horses to the cats. They don't disclose it (much less to kids). Most kids don't think about where that food are coming from. I'd say even many adults don't think about it...
     
    11-05-2010, 09:43 PM
  #17
Foal
We have a cat park near here too. I have personally donated several horses. 1 was a horse that compound fractured his leg, 2 other were rescues we got in that were unsavable. 1 had ring bone so bad he could not walk, and the other was stifled, and would never be sound.
The park has a nice little pen with hay, that is away from the cats. Horses is fed and cared for untill needed. With our horse with the broken leg it was shot in the head, and dead instantly, They don't throw whole carcases in, the butcher it out, and cut it up.
I think it is a wonderfull resorce to have. There are no euthanaisa , or desposal fees, the horse is quickly PTS, and there is no waste. It helos out thecat park, and the horse is usefull even when his life is over.
     
    11-05-2010, 09:45 PM
  #18
Foal
Oh and here many of the cats are used for shows, so they try to keep away from having the cats "kill" or asscociate "prey" with the food they eat. Maybe not the nicest site, but I saw heads, hooves, ect in the trash. So know they only feet "meat" of the animal.
     
    11-05-2010, 10:50 PM
  #19
Foal
When you shot a horse or any larger animal like that, you shot behind the ear. If you shoot other areas or the head you run the risk of the bullet not fully penetrating. Also is many cases the bullet would come out the other side of the head, cause the shoots would be taken at point blank range. It would also depend on the size of the gun used... a 22 would have very little power, a 30-06 (very standard gun) would probably come out the other side. And as for lead poison... heres some bullet facts... most bullet today are not lead many are copper, or other metals... and if a bullet could give you lead poisoning many many hunters would be dead....
     
    11-06-2010, 02:07 AM
  #20
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by yukontanya    
When you shot a horse or any larger animal like that, you shot behind the ear. If you shoot other areas or the head you run the risk of the bullet not fully penetrating. Also is many cases the bullet would come out the other side of the head, cause the shoots would be taken at point blank range. It would also depend on the size of the gun used... a 22 would have very little power, a 30-06 (very standard gun) would probably come out the other side. And as for lead poison... heres some bullet facts... most bullet today are not lead many are copper, or other metals... and if a bullet could give you lead poisoning many many hunters would be dead....
That's not necessarily true. The front part of the horses skull is fairly thin, my grandpa has ALWAYS shot them through the forehead. It gives a much bigger target, and as long as you're using proper weaponry, should never be a problem. He's been killing horses in this fashion for the better part of his 77 years as they owned a mink farm and used to buy old used plow horses to grind up as meat. We also butchered our own pigs shooting through the forehead - never had a single instance of anything other then an animal dropping dead.

I would be more concerned with BIG game like potentially a moose or elk, but moreso for their extremely erratic and unpredictable movements. When you can secure an animal fairly well (a domestic horse happy to stand quietly, lay down feed for pigs), it's not as much of an issue.
     

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