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    11-06-2010, 03:51 PM
I don't know, my niece would've been a little upset by it, but I think I could've explained it and she would've gotten over it. She's helped clean the ducks/geese before and doesn't have a problem with it. Thinks they're very beautiful, but likes to eat them too.

I guess I just don't think it's a big deal for a child to see something like that. It isn't horrifc and disgusting to me. It's just life. I bet the cats enjoy a good horse head a lot more than just a hunk of meat. They probably have a good time chewing on it and trying to get to the brain/tongue/etc. That's what I'd explain to any kids I had with me too.
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    11-06-2010, 03:54 PM
But since many kids would be upset by something like that, isn't there a different time that they could feed them the heads and feed them something unrecognizable the rest of the time?
    11-06-2010, 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by rocky pony    
But since many kids would be upset by something like that, isn't there a different time that they could feed them the heads and feed them something unrecognizable the rest of the time?
I agree. I mean I am sure the lions enjoy it, but why can't they do that behind the scenes?
    11-06-2010, 04:06 PM
I don't think there's any reason to worry about upsetting the children. Frankly I think it's good to upset kids sometimes, it makes them think. In my opinion that is something kids SHOULD see. They SHOULD realize that those cats need to eat other animals and I think those animals should have a face to them. Then they truly understand both the inate beauty and horror that is intrinsic to nature.

It's like watching a nature show. You see the lions stalking the elephant herd in the dark. They manage to grab ahold of the calf and they're all over him. His mom is screaming and rushing, trying to save her baby. The lions are doing their ****dest to kill the baby so they can feed their babies (and themselves). It's terrible to watch that calf being eaten alive, but there is a beauty in being witness to the struggle to survive.

The only difference here is that the kids are watching the cats hunt down, kill, and then eat the horse alive. But it does show them that these cats live by eating other animals. I think it's important for meat to have a face and that (IMO) should start young. It should start before they can even comprehend what death really is. This is one of the few instances that a "modern" human child is exposed to this kind of event. Most kids have no idea that their meat has a face or that Fluffy eats other (cute) animals and I think that's determental to our society as a whole.
    11-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
BTW, so sorry you lost your horse to colic. Never an easy decision to make!
Thank you, It was the hardest decision I have ever had to make but there was no other option you know? I don't regret it and I'm just glad she didn't die alone and cold in the pasture.
    11-06-2010, 04:14 PM
Looking back- yes I would have been upset but my parents would have told me "its life". It sounds to me like a privately owned organization so they can do whatever they please. Although if they rely on public donations- it would probably be better to keep the horse heads away from the public eye. Lol

Doesn't bother me tho, an animal is an animal; whether it neighs,barks,quacks or roars...
    11-06-2010, 04:15 PM
I agree with MN completely.

Most the feedings we have ever done were scheduled on the pamplets you got when you came into the park and people would come to the scheduled time to watch the feeding. So they could always opt out. Would anyone be concerned if it was a cow or deer?

Conservation is a huge part of zoos. I think that this is a very good way to show that these cats aren't just big tabbys behind a cage. It brings the viewer into the animals world and back to what wild animals are about. I think it is really educational. I'll admit I'll feel more comfortable watching a cat eat a steak than a head, but I don't think it's a horrible thing to witness either.
    11-06-2010, 04:23 PM
I suppose we have very differing opinions on that matter, then.

Personally to me, I feel that zoos are made pretty much for all children to enjoy. Parents will bring up children in different ways, and surely you and I would have very different values in raising children, but I feel that both should be able to enjoy the zoo.
Certainly at the zoos I went to growing up, they only publicly fed animals unrecognizable hunks of meat and if you were watching something like Nat Geo you knew what was coming...I just wouldn't at all expect to see something like a horse head being fed at a zoo.
At least for me, when I was little, horses were always something entirely different from any other animal, and nothing anybody could have told me would have changed my mind on that.

But regardless, I am vegan and would likely raise my children with those same values unless they decided otherwise. They would likely be uncomfortable seeing any animal's heads fed at zoos. Things are a lot different when you're a kid. At least it was that way for me. Obviously now I understand animals' need to eat other animals, but when I was a kid even if I understood it I didn't want to see it, at least not like that. A head is just a bit extreme.

Even if y'all disagree, the thing that you do need to accept is that obviously some of us do feel that way, and something public like a zoo should pay attention to that.
    11-06-2010, 04:29 PM
I certainly think that if they are going to be feeding recognizable animal parts it would be advisable for them to issue some sort of warning so that people aren't expecting a chunk of meat and end up with an animal head.

I think if more people had to raise and slaughter their own animals and actually recognize that what their eating used to be alive, there'd be a lot more vegetarians out there. I'm not a vegetarian, but I'm quite happy to not do the slaughtering myself.
    11-06-2010, 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
That's not necessarily true. The front part of the horses skull is fairly thin, my grandpa has ALWAYS shot them through the forehead. It gives a much bigger target, and as long as you're using proper weaponry, should never be a problem. He's been killing horses in this fashion for the better part of his 77 years as they owned a mink farm and used to buy old used plow horses to grind up as meat. We also butchered our own pigs shooting through the forehead - never had a single instance of anything other then an animal dropping dead.

I would be more concerned with BIG game like potentially a moose or elk, but moreso for their extremely erratic and unpredictable movements. When you can secure an animal fairly well (a domestic horse happy to stand quietly, lay down feed for pigs), it's not as much of an issue.

This is true, but its not the strength of the skull that's the problem, the the angle of the skull, if you are not right at point blank range (gun pretty much pressed to the skull), you run the risk of a ricochet. Its more of a angle thing, I grew up shooting behind the ear, that just how I do it... its always worked... there is more them one way to skin a cat. I have never seen it done to the front, that does not mean with experienced hands it would not work.

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