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        06-24-2010, 12:46 PM
      #11
    Showing
    Yes, people do eat horse meat, so I don't see how you find the slaughter of them considered pointless. They're also rendered for pet food and to feed large zoo predators.

    If you're going to try and present unbiased facts as opposed to personal opinions, you can't approach slaughter as being inherently abusive.

    Please don't let your ideals get in the way of real research. If you're not being honest with yourself you're only going to look for things that agree with your own position, which will give only a slanted view of the issues.

    There are some abusive practices that can and do happen, but slaughter itself isn't the culprit. Dead is dead and death is never pretty, no matter whether it's from a bolt to the brain or by injected poison from a vet.

    I do wish you luck with your project, but as I said, research all the facts, not just the ones that support your personal opinions.
         
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        06-24-2010, 12:48 PM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    You might not eat the meat but other people, yes people, do eat the meat.

    I do not like pork chops so I guess I should proclaim the slaughter of pigs is evil because people (obviously since I do not) do not eat the meat.

    Head/desk
    ah sorry... I meant people do eat their meat.. my mind was going to fast and I should have looked over what I was typing... I know people eat meat.. Sorry
         
        06-24-2010, 12:53 PM
      #13
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    Originally Posted by walkergal    
    ah sorry... I meant people do eat their meat.. my mind was going to fast and I should have looked over what I was typing... I know people eat meat.. Sorry
    Then you make even less sense.

    You said:
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    Originally Posted by walkergal
    I am foucusing on the slaughter of horses that is pointless and people don't eat their meat...
    If you change that to people DO eat their mean how is slaughter pointless?
    The slaughter has a purpose. To feed people and animals. It allows the meat of the animal to get used for something worthwhile.
         
        06-24-2010, 01:00 PM
      #14
    Foal
    I also meant that I will NOT be giving out my opinion...
    The horse with the cut nerve was at a rescue barn. This is where my idea started... Rescue barns. I am fine with people eating their meat... I am talking about the slaughter of horses just because people can... either they can not take care of them or they don't want to take of them. Instead of giving them to people who can and want to take care of them. THere is a whole other world of slaughter of horses than just eating their meat and zoo animal meat. Horses are not raised like cows, chickens, and pigs for human consumption. Although I appreciate your questioning where this is coming from, this is a legitament cause and there are rescue barns out there that DO need help.
         
        06-24-2010, 01:02 PM
      #15
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by MaggiStar    
    i had a horse who was tied using a metal chain on all four legs that was too tight and sliced into ger pasterns leaving nasty welts and sores.
    She was fed once a week or when remembered about and watered when they went to see her.
    Despite being 2 and a half malnourished and hopping lame she was expected to gallop on hard tracks and roads and not come lame. Her feet were horrific having never seen a farrier. She needed her teeth done injections etc. she was riddled with worms,her hair was falling out she had been hit around the head causing her to be head shy.

    After I got her she was on an extensive feed programme with 24-7 turn out proper farrier and vet care etc. She turned into a lovely little event pony.
    I am so glad she is okay now. Thank you for sharing this story with me. I appreciate and we need more people like you. Thanks again.
         
        06-24-2010, 01:04 PM
      #16
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    Originally Posted by walkergal    
    Instead of giving them to people who can and want to take care of them.
    Please take off your rose colored glasses for a minute.

    There are LOTS more horses than there are places that will take them. That is the problem. Rescues are full.

    The horse with the cut nerve so a kid can ride him probably has another story completely associated with him. It is not uncommon for a simple straight forward history becomes a dramatic story of cruelty at a rescue.
         
        06-24-2010, 01:08 PM
      #17
    Showing
    In most cases, slaughter IS the best option. They're not sent to slaughter "just because", they're sent for meat and because they usually would be better off dying in a slaughterhouse than in the backyard of someone who will starve it just to get rid of it.
         
        06-24-2010, 01:13 PM
      #18
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by equiniphile    
    In most cases, slaughter IS the best option. They're not sent to slaughter "just because", they're sent for meat and because they usually would be better off dying in a slaughterhouse than in the backyard of someone who will starve it just to get rid of it.
    BUt the owners could call someone of they can't take care of their horses anymore.
         
        06-24-2010, 01:23 PM
      #19
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    Originally Posted by walkergal    
    BUt the owners could call someone of they can't take care of their horses anymore.
    Enlighten me, who is this 'someone'?
         
        06-24-2010, 01:24 PM
      #20
    Showing
    Walkergal, rescues are full to bursting right now, and I don't like that people have started thinking that rescues are supposed to take everyone's cast offs.

    That's not for what they're intended; they're not a free retirement home for the horses people can no longer afford, they're for actual animals who need rescuing from abusive and neglectful situations.

    I also don't like that every Tom, Dick and Harriette are taking on horses willy nilly and calling themselves a 'rescue'. That's not a rescue, it's merely a hoarding situation for which they want the public to foot the bill.

    The bad economy has affected everyone and there are all sorts of animals being abandoned left and right, not just horses. In fact, many rescues themselves have had to shut down because they can't afford to keep going.

    There are just aren't enough good homes for the glut of horses on the market. It's not rocket science. If people can't afford to feed themselves, they're not going to want to feed a large, expensive animal.

    Would I rather see someone euth an animal at home than sell it at auction to a kill buyer? Yes, I would. But sometimes that $150.00 a person gets at auction may mean the difference between feeding or not feeding their family for a week. They may also not have the means to dispose of a very large, poisoned carcass without paying someone an exorbitant fee.

    It's just not as cut and dried as some people want to think.
         

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