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post #101 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 04:04 PM
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Very true Demon ;)

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post #102 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 04:07 PM
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Damage control?? They realized what a bunch of tools they looked like advocating the ban and increasing the suffering of horses. They haven't changed.
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post #103 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 04:24 PM
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Typical ploy with PETA, anything to get their name out. It would fit with their ideals, they do not want ANYONE to own ANY animals at all, so in their warped way, this is getting rid of animals faster.
Just an interesting side note, today the CEO of HSUS(humane society of the united states) has publically admitted (what alot of us have known for years)that they do NOT HAVE ANY animal shelters in the united states, AT ALL. All the money they bring in is for operating costs, campaigns, and to stay working alongside their best friend PETA.
This is HSUS, not the american humane society that does help all animals.
People donate to HSUS all the time thinking they are helping poor animals, when in fact HSUS is like PETA, they do not want you to have animals, they push ridiculous pet bans, etc.
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post #104 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 07:44 PM
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haha. Right, I think that's how it works. However, how many mares can 1 stallion breed. More than enough, obviously. Just for comparison, the fish and game here likes to keep 15 bucks per 100 does. That's almost 7 does per buck. And alot of the smaller bucks won't even be allowed to breed their "allotment" because the bigger bucks will push them out.

I think new laws are a bad idea. There are enough laws on the books. Just enforce the ones we have. I also have never read the part of the constitution that says the feds have to power to enforce any of these "laws". It would have to be on a state by state basis. I think it's a shame that people would rather see an animal rot in a landfill than be used to help in other areas.
If they set some kind of "rules" as to who was able to stud out their stallions, who was allowed to own one, etc. it would make a difference. Even though you think there are too many laws already, there are tons of laws and ordinances that are ridiculous. For example, in Bangor, Maine there is a city ordinance that says its illegal for more then 5 women to share a dwelling unit because it's considered a brothel. That's okay, but a law that controls stud ownership and breeding isn't? That's just ridiculous.
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post #105 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 08:14 PM
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The question is......if rules are made concerning breeding.....who is it that decides who can have a stud and who can't? Even with all the good intentions in the world, once folks have power it is used to benefit a select few while everyone else has to bow to the powers that be. The system becomes "rigged" if you will. We have enough of that kind of thing already.
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post #106 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 08:23 PM
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Well, sure. Systems can always get "rigged." And I am not going to sit around and pretend that I have all the answers, because I don't. I was just thinking that it might be a good idea. And maybe taking a course or being licensed or certified to own and breed studs could work. You would at least weed out the people who couldn't afford the class, let alone afford owning horses that then multiply, all while starving.
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And where is the money going to come from to enforce this? States/counties/towns/etc can't even reliably enforce their cat/dog licensing due to lack of funding...
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post #108 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 08:37 PM
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morally, I am opposed to slaughter. I believe it is very wrong to slaughter any animal under bad conditions along with being treated poorly up to it. If it is legal shouldn't it be humane? Personally im disgusted that obama passed this bill
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post #109 of 212 Old 11-30-2011, 08:41 PM
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I've often thought that a required class and license would be good for the human overpopulation problem. You know, just because you CAN have children, doesn't mean you should. Jk

Rules, regulations, laws, etc. are a way for the powers that be to artificially regulate the supply/demand market. The government doesn't do a very good job and more often than not, makes things worse.
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And where is the money going to come from to enforce this? States/counties/towns/etc can't even reliably enforce their cat/dog licensing due to lack of funding...

The money can come from the cost to take the certificate class, and the registration fee when you get registered as a stud owner/ breeder.

At least a portion of the funding can come from that...

Just an idea. Its totally cool to rain allll over my parade. I haven't really put enough thought into it anyway. Its something that would take a lot of planning in order to work out the kinks. But I think it's doable.
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