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    12-01-2011, 08:59 AM
  #121
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Good grief people --- You cannot even get people to stop abusing and killing their children and we have thousands of rules and laws on the books. We have some women that have 5 or 6 or more 'unwanted' children that the taxpayers have to support and you really think you can stop idiots from letting their intact junk horse breed their fertile ugly mares cause a baby horse would be so cute?

What planet do you live on?
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    12-01-2011, 10:36 AM
  #122
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Such a good post Cherie. Its so true, yet the ones against horse slaughter are thinking with their hearts and obviously well padded wallets instead of admitting that when horses DIE, which they all do, or get to a point where they need to be DESTROYED, then it needs to be done. Sure if the world was a big rainbow where all horses lived happily and never had to be euthanized or shot or slaughtered, it would be wonderful, but its not going to happen.
I raised and fed our two steers for a year, 640 was a pet, he came running when called, he would let me scratch him and play grain bucket games. But, that did not stop me from butchering him and now thoroughly enjoying him on the dinner table.
Slaughter plants in the US have needed to be reopened ever since they did close them. I would rather put a horse on a truck to be transported to the plants in the US in one day or two at most,, and know that they will be killed quickyl at our plants in the US, than put them on a truck to Canada/Mexico, travel for days and go to plants that are not regulated.
For the bleeding hearts that talk about the videos that are shown about the cruel treatment of horses, cutting them up before being dead, being mistreated, those are on the low extreme of slaughter and are not right, but that is not the typical way they are killed. Those videos are used to try to stop slaughter by showing the worst end of things. Hey, wake up and watch the news,bad things happen everyday to every living thing whether there are laws or not. Its called LIFE.
Opening the plants will make it easier for the people who need to ship a horse, whether for financial gain or because euthanizing/burying them is impossible where they live. Each decision has to be made and its hard either way, but at least this is faster for our horses when it does happen.
Unless the bleeding hearts have a way , both financially and with land to keep all the unwanted, sick or old horses for everyone, they need to grow up and face reality.
     
    12-01-2011, 10:56 AM
  #123
Trained
I agree with you 1,000,000%!

People going to do what they going to do. Weather we like it or not, what rules are in place, horses are going to be bred regardless.
Right now we are taxed to the hilt and I get a whopping charge on my paycheck to pay for people who "breed" themselves silly and hold out their hands. I'm ALLLL for helping people in duress but... Right now I have a Brother and SIL who are under 30, have no medical problems, never really worked a day in their lives, and they just had two "unplanned" kids who are only 11mos. Apart. They get food stamps, had their babies for free, get money for utilities, etc... and are thinking about trying for a girl! AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! /:(

All of the "regulation" posters need to think about what the gov could do to us to "help" the horses and animals and regulate breeding. You wanna nother tax? How about taxing you on your livestock? Scary huh? Can you afford to pay more to own your horses in order to cover the cost of "regulation"? Cause that's how they do it!

Personally, I feel like it's a FINE way to go. A horse (in a lot of cases) gets pampered and spoiled for over 20 years, gets injured or develops a condition, has two rough days and then life is over. I'd rather have that then face what I'll probably have to go through, YEARS or MONTHS of pain and medical care that will probably bankrupt me only to die loaded up and out of it in a hospital bed.
I also think that if a horse is fugly, dangerous, unwanted, two days and life is over is the way to go. Euths go wrong EVERY day, you can't RESPONSIBLY bury them, around here they ACTUALLY allow you to take them to the dump! Great! Thank heavens I live on a mountain top and don't rely on common ground water aquifers.
I really hope the USDA starts testing the horse meat and finds that most horse is fine for dog food. I would like there to be a way to certify that horses sold as meat are free of carcinogens. And cows and chickens don't exactly fit the bill EVEN now, but we eat em up. I'd LOVE cheaper dog food, filled with good horse meat, that dosen't include diseased animals and corn. I can't pay $50 for a 15lb. Bag of dog food now, mine would go through that in 2 days, so they get the cheaper chicken based stuff.

Just my thoughts.
     
    12-01-2011, 11:11 AM
  #124
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Another good post. Put the horse meat to good use. Most owners of horses don't give the animal medicated food to make it fat for market like done with cows/chickens. So, unless you feed your own beef, you don't know what you are eating. Horse meat would be great dog food, and like you, I can't afford $15 for 20lbs of "organic" dog food.
People need to stop putting OUR human emotions on animals. Horses, dogs, cats, cattle, chickens, etc. They do not have emotions like we do. They do not wake up in the morning and say" oh my, I am going to be put on a truck and taken to a plant to die."They don't think" I am going to race today and break my leg and die". They live their lives day by day. Once an animal is dead, they are dead. A quick two day death is so much better than a week on a truck to who knows where in what country .
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    12-01-2011, 11:41 AM
  #125
Trained
Do you like whales? Do you want to see them slaughtered in the wild, hauled up on a boat and chopped to death or drowned just to be eaten? Do you know how much more intelligent and "aware" they are than our unwanted horses?

The Japanese GLADLY snap up our horse meat in place of the restricted illegal whale meat. All we need are simple forms provided by our vets, that are required with sale, that states that we didn't load our horses with chemicals or waited a "safe" amount of time before sale. Done deal. That would even improve horse health across the board and make stupid breeders take better care of their horses, and possibly reduce breedings if they think that they will have to provide any kind of health documentation upon sale. Kind of like neg. Coggins.

Just another thought.
     
    12-01-2011, 11:52 AM
  #126
Weanling
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For example, in Bangor, Maine there is a city ordinance that says its illegal for more then 5 women to share a dwelling unit because it's considered a brothel. That's okay, but a law that controls stud ownership and breeding isn't? That's just ridiculous.
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The implication is that I support that law in Maine. I think it's ridiculous and goes to my point that we have too many laws. And no, I don't think any federal laws controlling animals are constitutional. What ammendment of the constitution allows the feds to regulate animal breeding? This would turn into the have's and have nots again. Not long ago, a guy could start with nothing in this country and work hard and get rich. Now you have to either inherit some money or sell your soul to get rich. Too much regulation, period. BTW, I would be in favor of legalizing prostitution at the state level and then taxing it like any other business.
     
    12-01-2011, 11:57 AM
  #127
Showing
Bear, move to Nevada. Prostitution's legal there, and is taxed just like any other business.

Interestingly enough, it's illegal in Las Vegas. I'd think that'd be the place where a brothel could really thrive.
     
    12-01-2011, 12:03 PM
  #128
Started
Yea, but it doesn't take long to drive to Reno or surrounding areas if you really need a brothel fast.
     
    12-01-2011, 12:06 PM
  #129
Foal
The scare tactics about horse meat being toxic is a bunch of hooey. There have been no tests that I know of. However, the meat Americans eat, and documented as "safe" by the government by the way, are full of growth hormones, antibiotics, and chemicals. My family eats the meat we grow on our farm. We give our food animals a happy life until the day it's time to serve their purpose. That cannot be said about the mass produced meat and a majority of the eggs and milk found in mainstream grocery stores. Horse meat is good protein, and I would rather see it feed dogs than disrespectfully rot in a landfill.
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    12-01-2011, 12:10 PM
  #130
Weanling
Haha. I'm not actually pro prostitution. I just think that since it happens, it should be taxed like any business. If states want to ban it, I really don't care. I just don't see how that's bad but they can have a state run lottery. It's strange how one persons sin is ok but anothers isn't. The government shouldn't be in the business of regulating morality. Or animal breeding.
     

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