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post #51 of 58 Old 10-10-2016, 09:35 PM
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Um... ranchers don't "fence off the only water supplies." That is a pure lie used as propaganda by pro feral horse groups and repeated ad naseum by people who frequent those sites.

Quite a bit of ground the horses run on doesn't have any natural water sources. Often a big reason why it wasn't homesteaded 150 years ago.

IF a rancher gets a lease on some of that ground, the rancher supplies water and tanks during the time of his lease. Benefits all animals. When I leased government ground, I even put screen 'ladders' up into and out of the tanks for the rodents or birds that needed water so they wouldn't drown in the tanks. Of course, I do that on my own places, too.

IF there is a natural water supply on government lease ground the rancher has to keep it usable while his cows are on the land. Usually anywhere from a month to almost the year. No one does this while the land is vacant of livestock.

Horses hooves compact dirt sometimes stomping a spring into nothing when there are too many horses. Or too many of any animal using that water source. Sometimes there will be water/a spring on lease ground when the rancher leaves and the next season - nothing. Not a trace when he gets back. So he finds other ground or buys and hauls water. Of course, it gets blamed on cows.

When there is a bad drought, the area's game and fish increases the number of licenses available to reduce herd numbers of elk, deer, antelope.

I've had that done in two areas where I own land and I let people come on and hunt at no cost to keep animals from suffering the effects of drought. And I have seen large herbivores die from dehydration and/or starvation. Watch an antelope fawn try to nurse off its' dying mama when she's too weak to stand and you will know it happens. And then know the fawn will either die a slow lonely death or be eaten while still alive by coyotes (who are varmints and can be harvested anytime).

There are ranchers who put tanks on the borders of 'public' land so the feral horses could water year round and they got in trouble by both government and "wild" horse kooks for tampering with nature.
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But to topic: Glad she being charged.

The neighbors are going to have a healing ceremony for the land.
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post #54 of 58 Old 10-12-2016, 11:12 PM
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I say the continuing story here bares paying attention to. I'm relieved something is finally being done and sincerely hope that the worst case horses get the relief of euthanasia sooner rather than later. What a truly horrible thing that she has done to these incredible animals. Has Sussman been allowed back on the property? Is Colleen still fired? Or will she be allowed to help care for the remaining herd?
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post #55 of 58 Old 10-13-2016, 02:03 AM Thread Starter
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colleens role is done. Sussman is STILL in denial and is trying to blame it on colleen and she is STILL taking donations -_-'.
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post #56 of 58 Old 10-24-2016, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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so alot of horses are getting adopted out. we suspect sussman is hiding a few since only "1" horse needed to be put down and according to colleen there is a mare wondering around on a broken fetlock, a filly with a fracture and the gray mare in the news vid. someone took in 9 orphaned foals and one is an absolute mess.

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post #57 of 58 Old 12-27-2016, 10:25 PM
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What are these people thinking? The horses finally have a chance for something better.

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I haven't seen it personally, but I have a high interest in moving and ranching on land that is part of the BLM or managed by it, so I've done my research on wild herds. I'm completely for the adoptions. There are a lot of wild horses out there that I'd LOVE to get my hands on.

There are so many issues when it comes to wild horses, and so many kooks on both sides. The people who think they should be completely left alone are out of their minds IMO. Yes, a hundred and fifty years ago maybe, when predator populations, drought, and food shortage was keeping numbers down. But now, farm land is being destroyed, springs, and who wants to see whole herds of horses die of dehydration when they can be adopted out? Certainly not the people protesting the gatherings?!

For me, I have no trouble taking something out of the wild if it will fare better in human hands. We've taken orphan deer, birds and other wildlife that would have otherwise died if left alone, so why is a horse any different?
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