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    04-05-2010, 11:42 AM
  #21
Foal
Truth be told and Exposed for what it is..

Horse slaughter is clearly a reward for irresponsible people. Sadly abuse and neglect will remain but slaughter will end. Thus abuse and neglect will drop. Only the ones that promote it will be the ones to continue to abuse and neglect. These are the people that should be locked up..

Horse slaughter is support also by industries that promote overbreeding for papers. These industries have NO HISTORY to helping or donating to any horse rescues in America. They rather feed people bull crap about down markets etc Bo Ho..

Fact is if they support Anti slaughter they would lose money.. They know they can't exist by doing the right thing. Similar to our aging humans they are treated as throw aways that sometimes not even family members care for there own kind.. and many retirement homes are hurting..

Horse rescue could be a much easier problem to fix by donating by the very people who are making money off them but they don't..

Horse plants in Texas Beltex and Dallas crown were own by foreigner that didnt pay gross income tax nor tariff tax on there exports. Plus they hire illegals to do there dirty work while our tax dollars went to keep illegals out. Plus our tax dollars were going to USDA inspectors to make sure the meat was safe yet they ignored the drugs in horses such as brute, steriods, wormers, etc. Why because it wasnt eaten in America.

The beef industry supports horse slaughter because a rumor of stopping horse slaughter will stop beef products.. What a bunch of lies..

These industries know if they can get into the market they will be set in a black market but truth is Horse meat is demand is decresing and isnt desired as it once was. Maybe because horse meat was an expensive meal and eaten by older people. Young people are more educated to know what is good to eat and what is bad to eat.

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    04-05-2010, 11:42 AM
  #22
Foal
Fellow Horse Advocate,



On March 30, 2010 the Canadian Horse Defence Coalition released its latest investigative reports on two of Canada 's largest horse slaughter plants, Bouvry Exports in Alberta and Richelieu Meats in Quebec :



Chambers of Carnage - A Sweeping Undercover Investigation of Canada 's Leading Equine Slaughterhouses



Video cameras captured footage at both facilities in late February 2010. What is happening to our horses in these plants is horrible beyond words. The footage is difficult to view as they contain images of horses meeting their end at the barrel of a gun. Those fortunate enough to go down quickly are spared the suffering of many that do not meet their end so quickly or painlessly. If you find it hard to watch the footage, there are also footage indexes that you can read instead.



Links to these reports are on our website at: http://www.defendhorsescanada.org .




From World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA)

"The World Society for the Protection of Animals (WSPA) is appalled by evidence of grossly inhumane slaughter of horses taking place in Canada . We have been sent video footage that is stated to have been taken recently in Bouvry Exports Calgary Ltd slaughterhouse in Fort Macleod, Alberta and Viande Richelieu Inc./Richelieu Meat Inc. Slaughterhouse in Massueville , Quebec .
It is clear that neither the facilities nor the behaviour of the personnel shown are suited to the humane slaughter of horses, and that extreme suffering results for many individual animals. Problems include failure to restrain each animal's head properly before shooting, shooting from too great a distance, shooting in the wrong part of the head or body, failure to follow up with an immediate second shot in animals that were not killed by the first, hoisting apparently conscious animals, and - in the case of the Richelieu plant - cruel handling and treatment of the horses, including excessive whipping and overuse of an electric prod as well as an apparent callous disregard for the animals' suffering. An additional cause of very major concern is the presence of what appear to be either plant supervisors or inspectors who observe the employees' actions and yet do nothing."
From Nicholas H. Dodman, D.V.M., one of the world's most noted and celebrated veterinary behaviorists, a founding member of Veterinarians for Equine Welfare and Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine Professor
“Noise, blood and suffering is what you get at the Bouvry equine slaughter plant: Horses kicking after they have been shot, sinking down and rising up; sometimes periods of struggling or paddling before a second or third shot has to be administered. This atrocity goes against all veterinary guidelines for humane euthanasia. Terror and suffering is the rule at this equine house of horrors ... and all in the name of the gourmet meat market.”
From Alberta Veterinarian Dr. Debi Zimmermann
"I conclude that the wary and flighty nature of the horse, coupled with the poorly designed kill plant systems currently in place at Bouvry Exports and Viande Richelieu, results in unacceptable levels of suffering endured by horses (both in number of horses and degree of suffering), and poses inherent dangers to plant personnel. The shooters are seldom able to adhere to the required protocols for euthanasia by firearm, due to a combination of horse and human factors."
The CHDC asks you to take action and let the CFIA know that this suffering will not be accepted! There are only 4 operating horse slaughter plants in Canada , yet these are the substandard conditions we can be sure are prevalent at all of them. Horses cannot be humanely killed in an assembly-line fashion. This evidence makes it abundantly clear.
Please contact:
Hon. Gerry Ritz
Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food (Minister that oversees the CFIA)
613 Confederation Bldg., House of Commons
Ottawa , Ontario K1A 0A6
Email: Ritz.G@parl.gc.ca
Website:www.gerryritzmp.com
Tel: 613-995-7080; Fax: 613-996-8472

Ms. Carole Swan, President
Canadian Food Inspection Agency
59 Camelot Drive
Ottawa , Ontario K1A 0Y9
Email: swanc@inspection.gc.ca
Website: www.inspection.gc.ca/english/toce.shtml
Tel: 613-221-3737; Fax: 613-228-6608

Dr. Brian Evans
Chief Veterinary Officer of Canada
Canadian Food Inspection Agency
59 Camelot Drive , Floor 1, East Room 100
Ottawa , Ontario K1A 0Y9
Email: bevans@inspection.gc.ca
Website: www.inspection.gc.ca/english/toce.shtml

Tel: 613-221-4191; Fax 613-228-6608
Also contact your Member of Parliament via this link. Click on his or her name to find their contact information:
http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/MainMPsCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current&Langua ge=E



Please do it for the horses!


All of the footage compilations from Bouvry and Richelieu have been uploaded onto YouTube here: www.youtube.com/twylafrancois
Also please visit our Memorial Page for horses killed at Bouvry Exports and Richelieu Meats: http://www.defendhorsescanada.org/forthehorses/index.php

Feel free to post this message on social networking sites to encourage others to take action for the horses.



Thank you.















Shelley Grainger
Canadian Horse Defence Coalition
www.defendhorsescanada.org


     
    04-05-2010, 11:51 AM
  #23
mls
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airspace1    
Horse slaughter is clearly a reward for irresponsible people.
Wrong.

Horses are sent to slaughter for many reasons. Not everyone who must put a horse on a truck is irresponsible.
     
    04-05-2010, 11:59 AM
  #24
Trained
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Originally Posted by alli09    
Again it was all over the news.
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Again, you are wrong. Since the BLM has taken control of "wild" horses they have not at any time been used for slaughter. The BLM does use helicopters to gather the horses and then they put them up for adoption or put them in long term holding facilities and feed them for the rest of thier lives. They are NEVER slaughtered. EVER. It is ILLEGAL to sell a mustang for slaughter. The kill buyers that I know don't even bid on a horse if it looks like it might be a mustang. There are severe penalties for that and other horses are plentiful and easy to come by. You should pay closer attention to the news.
     
    04-05-2010, 12:04 PM
  #25
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airspace1    
Horse slaughter is clearly a reward for irresponsible people. Sadly abuse and neglect will remain but slaughter will end. Thus abuse and neglect will drop. Only the ones that promote it will be the ones to continue to abuse and neglect. These are the people that should be locked up..

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That is pretty shaky logic. I think you should open your mind, do more research than can be done on youtube and educate yourself on some facts.
     
    04-05-2010, 01:42 PM
  #26
Banned
Here's a couple of my posts from a previous thread on this topic:

Who participating in this conversation has assisted with a chemical euthanasia?

Who participating in this conversaton has assissted with euthanasia by bullet or captive bolt?

A persistent fallacy often repeated in this threads is that euthanasia by injection is inherently "more humane" than euthanasia by bullet or captive bolt.

I am willing to bet that anyone who has witnessed or assisted both methods will tell you that bullet or captive bolt is quicker/more humane. I have assisted at both and that is my very firm opinion. It is emotionally upsetting to *me* to have the horse destroyed by bullet, but it is quicker and more humane for the horse.

There is also a persistent fallacy in the emotional agruments on this issue that it's somehow better/ethically superior to bury the carcass after whatever method of euthanasia.

Again, how many of the people proposing that burial is somehow better have actually *done* it? Not paid someone to do for you while you're gone from the barn, but dug the hole, transported the body by whatever method, and buried it? Or hauled an old, injured or sick animal to the land fill to be euthanized on site because that was the only option in your locality?

There is nothing warm and fuzzy, dignified, nice or even vaguely comforting about it.

If, in the future, these conversations were limited to people who had actual, hands on experience with the issues we're discussing, rather than internet research heavy on the propaganda, they conversations would be much, much shorter.

If you don't have actual, hands on experience with euthanasia or disposal, I have a way you can still participate with an *informed*, rational opinion.

Call your local horse rescue. Tell them that you're hooking up your tractor trailer and going to the nearest livestock auction. Tell them that you are going to buy every healthy, potentially adoptable horse you see at the auction until you're trailer's full. You'll be using your own money to buy them; ask the rescue how many they're willing to take, care for and find homes for.

Repeat this excercise until you've placed one tractor trailer load of horses.

Then come back to this conversation and defend your position that rescue and adoption is the solution to the problem.
     
    04-05-2010, 02:21 PM
  #27
Showing
I had my once in a lifetime put down by chemical euthing. The next one I have put down will be by either captive bolt, or a bullet.

Chemical euthing is easier on the human because it looks 'more peaceful', when in fact it just means the animal takes longer to die. A bullet or captive bolt is instantaneous. It can be rather stressful for an owner to watch, but it's more humane for the animal.

I didn't actually dig the hole, but I was there when the backhoe driver dug it, and I was there when they chained my horse to the bucket by his legs in order to haul him over to his grave.

Death is ugly, regardless of the method by which it comes. Burying a very large carcass can be traumatizing to the humans, especially since there's nothing graceful or dignified about chaining a dead animal by the legs, hoisting it in the air, and dragging it over to a hole in the ground. Once there, the legs are unchained and the body is toppled into the grave.

I was upset by the ugliness of it all, but I also knew that the body being buried was only my horse's physical shell. I buried him for my own satisfaction, nothing more. Once he no longer occupied the body, it was just a large carcass that needed to be disposed of.

As far as the 'ZOMG, save the pwetty horsies from a gruesome fate!' poster I have nothing to say, although I think their user name should be Airhead, not Airspace. Since it seems apparent that they're not using the brain God gave them for rational thought.

Remember y'all, we don't yet have equine slaughter back in the U.S. And Canada is not subject to U.S. Authority. Once we have U.S. Plants back open, we can enforce the laws that are already on the books. I for one will breathe a sigh of relief the day the first plant opens back up.
     
    04-05-2010, 02:33 PM
  #28
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speed Racer    

Remember y'all, we don't yet have equine slaughter back in the U.S. And Canada is not subject to U.S. Authority. Once we have U.S. Plants back open, we can enforce the laws that are already on the books. I for one will breathe a sigh of relief the day the first plant opens back up.
This!!!!

So true!



Alli, what news do you watch that seems to cover and recover and only cover wild horse round up stuff?
Wild horses have not been on any true news broadcast I have seen in a VERY long time.
     
    04-05-2010, 03:16 PM
  #29
Foal
horse slaughter paper

Try these links for information. There are links on most of these sites to numerous other sites.

VEW White Paper : Veterinarians for Equine Welfare

http://americanherds.blogspot.com/

http://rtfitch.wordpress.com/

Animal Law Coalition | Advocating for animals to live and live free of cruelty and neglect

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    04-05-2010, 03:28 PM
  #30
Weanling
You know Wy mustangs that can't be adopted will be killed and given to the needy and state prisoners... And thank god.
There are some horrible looking culls in those bunches.
     

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