Horse Slaughter - Should Start Up Once More - Page 3
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Horse Resources > Horse Protection

Horse Slaughter - Should Start Up Once More

This is a discussion on Horse Slaughter - Should Start Up Once More within the Horse Protection forums, part of the Horse Resources category

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        08-18-2008, 03:55 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    I beleive that horse slaughter is neccessary....

    At first when I saw the videos...i cried

    But now, we face the decision of our government disposing of them in another way....which may be even more cruel

    I beleive that population control is a must for all animals....i think that killing a horse for meat is no different than killing a deer, or squirrel
    What I beleive should happen is the way that horses are slaughtered should be changed..there are more effeicient ways to dispose a horse on the spot and still have good use of the animals meat...for human consumption if you must..

    There is no sense in punchin a nail at them till you kill them....that is horrible...i think that there could be a more humane way to do that
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        08-18-2008, 08:46 PM
      #22
    Trained
    I agree with you most of the way Vet Girl!

    Northern Mama I love your post that was awesome! (the first one you mad on this topic, not sure if there was more)

    Horses are NOT pets.
         
        08-18-2008, 10:57 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Horses are NOT pets.
    are you serious?
    What are they then?
         
        08-18-2008, 11:40 PM
      #24
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch

    Horses are NOT pets.
    Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't... most horses are bred and raised as working horses, not pets... but I pamper Maia, she's my girl, and I do consider her to be more of a "pet" than a working animal.. having said that, if she were really a pet, would I even consider selling her? Probably not.. my cat and dog are with me for life, why not Maia?
    Who knows.. I'm still trying to decide whether or not she's a forever horse...
         
        08-19-2008, 12:44 AM
      #25
    Weanling
    Do not quote me on this information on this first part, but I think I am correct.

    In India?(this is the part I am not sure about) cows are considered sacred, so they eat horse meat instead, right?

    Now, my point is, we do not come to their country and slaughter their cows for the United States to eat, so do not come to our country and slaughter OUR horses for meat. Get your own horses.

    Also, any animal can be a pet, I do not care if it is a dog, cat, rabbit, horse, chicken, cow, pig, or whatever. If you do not own it to profit from it and treat it like a pet, it is a pet. I know my horses are my pets. I even call them my KIDS with 4 legs. I show my horses, so yes, they are also working animals, but still considered to be a PET in my eyes.

    After all this is the definition for a PET
    a domesticated animal kept for pleasure rather than utility.

    I also agree that we do need to stop the overbreeding and take horses away from the people who breed just to see a baby in their backyard. Every horse born should have a reason to have been bred and born, and eventually given a job to do. Whether this job range from being a backyard pet to a top world champion race or show horse to the working horses still plowing up ground to this very day. When you want to breed a horse, ask yourself why, and if your answer is just because I want a baby, THEN DO NOT BREED THE HORSE!

    One more complaint, STOP breeding for color, breed horses for conformation first, color second. I know color breeders, and yes the horse is gorgeous to look at it's coloring, but the confirmational faults ruin the horse. I have seen the most colorful and beautifully marked horses so cow hocked or knock kneed so bad, they can hardly walk.
         
        08-19-2008, 12:49 AM
      #26
    Weanling
    Minihorse- agreed
         
        08-19-2008, 10:00 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    Yes, cows are sacred in some places, but horses are not sacred in this country. Horses are livestock. You may treat them as pets, but they are still considered by law as livestock. I know someone who loves cows. She dresses one particular cow for occasions like holidays and the cows birthday. Takes pics of it. Very cute. But the cow, even her cows, are still livestock. The reason we don't get other countries cows, I believe India was mentioned, is because they are sacred. It is against their religion to eat cows, just as in some religions you can not eat pork. But, if you looked at these sacred cows, you would see that they are also starving as they are walking the streets. We don't need to slaughter Indias cows for meat because we are not a third world country and can grow our own food. Also, the horses that are being slaughtered, with a very, very small percentage are unwanted. If they were wanted, then they wouldn't be at the auctions, or on the trucks if someone wanted them. Not all horses are someone's "baby".
         
        08-19-2008, 10:48 AM
      #28
    Weanling
    Ugh.

    I don't support any large factory slaughter, which is what horse slaughter, and most other slaughter is.

    Local farms, peeps that breed their own goats, cattle, pigs, chickens FOR THEIR OWN CONSUMPTION, or to supply a small town is the only slaughter I will ever support, Do you think we need all this meat anyway???? C'mon. Horse slaughter is factory slaughter. It is not humane, the employed work in terrible conditions, workers become desensitized and depressed, the kill floors are NEVER sanitary, and animals die in agony, anxiety and fear. If someone wants to send their horse to slaughter, they should honor it and slaughter it themselves for their own consumption.

    Just my humble opinion
         
        08-19-2008, 04:11 PM
      #29
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch
    I agree with you most of the way Vet Girl!

    Northern Mama I love your post that was awesome! (the first one you mad on this topic, not sure if there was more)

    Horses are NOT pets.
    I think I disagree... At my home, horses are pets. I bought my first horse as a 3 year old, he's 24 now. I have a 29 year old that is not rideable anymore. To me, they are family. BUT I do understand your comment, because to some people they are assets. If you are running a business, alot of times, no matter how much you love a particular horse, everything has it's price. And if you are running a business then a horse that is not useable for breeding/riding/sales/etc. then it's a burden.

    For me, they are definitely pets and they are in forever homes. Not everyone has that option.

    I hate the idea of killing an animal. I really hate it. BUT I also think that getting rid of the last slaughter houses in the US has actually hurt the horse industry. I think it may have been a huge mistake.

    I don't believe in hunting either, but my husband does and I can tell you right now, if he "murders" a deer, then my butt is eating it because that animal is not dying in vein! So... I don't know...

    Those are my thoughts...
         
        08-19-2008, 10:58 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TxHorseMom
    Yes, cows are sacred in some places, but horses are not sacred in this country. Horses are livestock. You may treat them as pets, but they are still considered by law as livestock. I know someone who loves cows. She dresses one particular cow for occasions like holidays and the cows birthday. Takes pics of it. Very cute. But the cow, even her cows, are still livestock. The reason we don't get other countries cows, I believe India was mentioned, is because they are sacred. It is against their religion to eat cows, just as in some religions you can not eat pork. But, if you looked at these sacred cows, you would see that they are also starving as they are walking the streets. We don't need to slaughter Indias cows for meat because we are not a third world country and can grow our own food. Also, the horses that are being slaughtered, with a very, very small percentage are unwanted. If they were wanted, then they wouldn't be at the auctions, or on the trucks if someone wanted them. Not all horses are someone's "baby".
    I know that not all horses are someone babies. I know people who see them only as a business and could care less about these horse just so long as they make a buck in the end. My point was that I am not completely against horse slaughter, but there needs to be more humane ways of doing it then a nail to the head 5 or 6 times. I know a lot of people who want to inject them with the overdose of tranquilizer, but this makes the animal unsafe for human consumption due to the chemicle in the drug. I know that in every religion/country there are different animals are sacred such as cows or pigs or whatever. I know there are unwanted horses out there because I have owned and rehabilitated many of them and placed them with a new home where they still reside, and most of them I gave away for free to a good home. I know I am a sap when I see an abused or starved horse because I just want to take them all and make them fat and happy. I know this is not possible, but at least I can save a few from seeing this fate in the end. I do not want to see horses slaughtered and yes they technically are a livestock animal. I also agree with what was said before as in the fact that the horse market has fell apart since the slaughter has been banned from the US. I know I have not had as many people bringing horses in to board or train at my stable, and when they are asked why, they just say there is no more money in these horses anymore so now they are just fat pasture ornaments unless they are an exceptional animal in the show circuit.

    We all understand that horses are a livestock and that there is still a need for a slaughter market. We just need to make it so that there is one shot, not 4,5, or 6 to the head before the horse is gone. This is not the right way to do this. Like was said before, some countries do not eat pork, some do not eat cows, and in the US we eat just about anything that moves other than horses, dogs, and cats. This all comes down to a country/region/religion basis. My point is being, just make it more humane, don't hang the poor horse up and stab him in the chest to bleed him out while he is still kicking, they didn't ask for that, they did not ask for any of it.
         

    Thread Tools



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:06 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0