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    01-29-2011, 06:35 PM
^Kevin, I completely see where you're coming from, but I have a feeling the place would look like that again in another few months even if they had cleaned it up. The owner doesn't seem to be willing to keep up with the work, or he would have at least flushed the cut with water. I do agree that calling him a moron was immature and did nothing but make the problem worse.
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    01-29-2011, 06:41 PM
The cut was not serious at all and how do you know he didn't flush it with Champagne and rub it with caviar? In a few months the mud will be dried up and a properly built fence will last much longer than a few months. Like I said, all they can do is complain.
    01-29-2011, 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
...The lady that called him a moron would have better served the horses by finding someone with a tractor to put some drainage material in the pen. Then she could have put on her muck boots and big girl pants and done some work...
They could probably buy the horses, if they really mean to help. But to say that it is a 10 out of 10 in dire need? I hope those 'experts' don't come by on those rare times when we get 3 days of rain in a row in southern Arizona. My bone dry corrals turn into thick, slippery mud. I hate it, the horses hate it, and then it dries out. Sure looks ugly on day 3, though.
    01-30-2011, 07:17 AM
If the do-gooders were not afraid to get thier hands dirty they could have went to the owner and asked if they could help improve the horses situation. Fencing could be brought along with straw or sand and an acceptable solution could have been reached. Instead they demonized an owner that is probably trying to do the best he can for his horses and now they have lost all hope of him cooperating. The lady that called him a moron would have better served the horses by finding someone with a tractor to put some drainage material in the pen. Then she could have put on her muck boots and big girl pants and done some work.

People like that only want to vent thier frustrations with other aspects of thier life. They don't really want to help. It's hard work to actually DO something but it's easy to cry in front of the camera and point out someone else's shortcomings. If all the people that I saw gathered there had brought $50 worth of materials and spent two hours improving the conditions of these horses the county wouldn't have to get involved. The horses would also be much better off.
Very well said, Kevin. The guy is not intentionally going out and abusing his horses. Times are tough for many people right now. Why not try and help the guy out instead of crucifying him.
    01-30-2011, 09:25 AM
Green Broke
I agree with all of you.

They do need help so why aren't people helping instead of trying to get the spca involved just to do something?
    01-30-2011, 12:42 PM
I don't care if the idiot is doing it on purpose or not. That's totally irrelevant. The horses are not suffering any less just because the owner isn't neglecting them intentionally. There is no excuse. If you can't keep your horses in good condition, you don't have them. Period.

I don't think it's just mud they're wallowing in. How often do you think the guy picks the manure out of his paddocks? That open wound on the one horse is an invitation for infection. And they are most definitely underweight.

Excuse me for being disgusted with the poor, helpless owner who's sitting in his house while his horses are outside, up to their elbows in filth.
    01-30-2011, 12:50 PM
Green Broke
Yeah it's sad but why can't people help instead of just trying to take them away from him? That would be quicker and then maybe he would more willing to let them go.
    01-30-2011, 01:41 PM
No responsible horse owner puts their own wants before the needs of their horses. I would not say this is a 10, but it's sure up there. Here's Fugly's take on it:
    01-30-2011, 01:45 PM
Well said as usual Kevin. I am not closing my eyes about this, but its a reality of where some folks live.

I live in Wyoming and right now we are fence high with snow, but guess what? In a few months(hopefully) the snow will start melting and since the ground is still frozen, my field, especially where the horses hang around most the time will be under water in dirty mud, the horses will be muddy and look like something the cat coughed up. There is no place to keep them dirt/mud/water muck free until the winter thaw is over. They are well fed, fresh water and the best vet care, yet if someone who thinks they know better would assume my horses are living in an inhumane situation.
My dog kennels/yard where my show dogs are will also be a pool of dirt and mud and water. They have the best of care and dry dog houses, but I can't keep them locked up inside the house to poop and pee because they are going to get filthy dirty during the spring thaw.
Alot of us living in some states don't have boarding facilities to keep our horses in box stalls. Heck even if I had the facilities close by, I couldn't afford it. Just because someone's situation LOOKS like inhumane treatment, that doens't mean it is.
My best friend lives in Northern California close by where these ponies are. Her dog kennels during the rains and sun, rains and sun are a mess, the dogs are muddy, the kennels are sloppy, just as her yard is where her goats. Are. Does this mean she is inhumane? Does this mean she doens't go out daily and clean up and put down straw and gravel and such? No, it just means that sometimes you can't keep up with mother nature.
Because my horses live in muddy gunk during the thaw, does that mean that I should not own my animals? Not in your life does it mean that, it just means I can't tell the snow/mud to go away, I have to deal with it an a daily basis. My horses have shelter to get under during the bad weather, they don't go in it, they stand outside in the snow and mud. On a ranch or farm, mud, dirt, manure, and messes are a part of daily life. Just because some do gooders decide to butt into a person's life and get on TV doesn't mean the person should have his animals taken away. Maybe those do gooders should send the guy money to help, hire tractors to bring gravel and stockpile gravel and straw and quit trying to make a person look inhumane.
    01-30-2011, 01:49 PM
Green Broke
I agree! ^^

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