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  • How to tell a meatman at horse sales
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    03-24-2012, 12:00 AM
  #11
Yearling
After watching my my horse go to the meat man at auction I can't support it but I don't have reasons to be against it. Could someone please explain to me why people support it? Just curious!
     
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    03-24-2012, 01:06 AM
  #12
Showing
TBstorm, just to avoid turning this into another debate, you might just go check out some of the other threads in the horse protection section. There are dozens that debate slaughter and some very detailed explanations from those of us that do support it.
     
    03-24-2012, 03:48 AM
  #13
Yearling
Ok sounds good. I do not like to voice my opinion on such things as it seems to turn into one big argument. I was just curious to see is all.
     
    03-24-2012, 11:14 AM
  #14
Showing
My sis lives in Alberta close to the large horse venue. Every week truckloads of horses arrived from the US for the auction.Some horses will be sold to private individuals but the number of horses greatly exceeds the buyers. We know where most of those animals will wind up. At times there were 20 semi loads. Why are so many coming from the US? They're not all cripples and old ones. That is what you need to look at, not that Canada is still processing them. Canada profits by what the Americans send us. Simple economics.
     
    03-24-2012, 01:16 PM
  #15
Yearling
Ho sh*t. If that's true, do you have any idea how much risk that puts my horses under? Especially now. Please, please, let it not open for another year and a half!! D:
     
    03-24-2012, 04:17 PM
  #16
Yearling
All of our horses went to the one in Alberta 3 years ago because we ran out of money and there were no buyers. So my perfectly healthy, strong, sound cutting and roping pony went there. When the econemy is bad in BC everyone looses horses to the meat man.
     
    03-25-2012, 03:57 PM
  #17
Trained
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Originally Posted by tbstorm    
all of our horses went to the one in Alberta 3 years ago because we ran out of money and there were no buyers. So my perfectly healthy, strong, sound cutting and roping pony went there. When the econemy is bad in BC everyone looses horses to the meat man.
Nope. They choose to sell them to the meat man. Nobody "lost" thier horses to the meat man.
     
    03-25-2012, 05:18 PM
  #18
Yearling
Ok yeah I guess that makes sense. I guess I felt that I lost to him because it was the only option left, but yeah we did choose that option in the end so ill admit that I was wrong.
     
    03-25-2012, 06:05 PM
  #19
Showing
Something disheartening that I learned was that breeders will often not reduce the price of their horses but prefer to send them to auction knowing their likely destination. This is done to prop up false values. Often the registration papers don't follow the horse so the horse can't be traced to the breeder.
     
    03-25-2012, 10:19 PM
  #20
Super Moderator
Do you actually, personally know legitimate breeders that do this?

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Something disheartening that I learned was that breeders will often not reduce the price of their horses but prefer to send them to auction knowing their likely destination. This is done to prop up false values.
This is just not true. I am a breeder. I know many serious breeders. I do not know one that thinks this way or does this. I know several breeders that use sales for marketing, but they are the better consignment sales with $250.00 to $1000.00 consignment fees. They regularly market -- usually yearlings or 2 year olds left after buyers have picked through them -- through these sales. Since we ride and train our home-raised prospects and still have a market for good, properly trained trail and pleasure horses, we seldom use sales. Many of our friends do and most are very realistic about what they will bring at a sale after the initial shock of the big value plunge in 2007 - 2008.

When 'supply and demand' economic laws get 'out of whack' like they have with the horse market of the last few years, there is going to be a huge excess. Five to ten years from now, when the small crops of the last 3 - 4 years and the next 3 to 4 years catch up to the market, there will be another spike in prices brought on by shortages of good, young sound trained horses and prospects. Ten years ago, breeders could not breed them fast enough to fill the great market demand. And you know what? There were still 150,000 horses a year going to slaughter houses.
     

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