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        10-31-2009, 02:23 PM
      #221
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Sharpie    
    PETA is an "animal rights" organization. Ie, they think that an animal should have the same rights as a human. Therefore: no keeping pets (slavery), no riding (slavery), no eating meat (murder), milk (slavery), or eggs (slavery AND murder). Their idea of 'ethical treatment' means that no human should interact or have any effect on an animal's life whatsoever. We should just leave all animals alone in nature, and make up for the cruelty we've done via domestication by 'ending their suffering at the hands of man,' so basically, kill all domestic animals. That's their whole "Better dead than fed" thing.

    I pretty much think ALL animal RIGHTS organizations are extreme. PETA especially.

    I'm an "animal welfare" person, meaning that I think we should treat animals well, but that when it comes down to saving a rabbit or saving a person, I think that the person's life is more valuable in principle. Granted, depending on the person, I might choose the rabbit. ;) That does not mean I condone any sort of cruelty, neglect or mistreatment. It does mean that I think it's perfectly okay to 'use' animals as pets, food, or friends. It seems to me that most animals are pretty happy with the situation too. I mean, though humanity, cows, chickens, horses, cats and dogs have become some of the most successful and widespread species on the face of the planet! Zebras, who aren't so keen on being domesticated, are endangered.

    So, unlike PETA (all animal-human interaction is bad) I think association with humans is a pretty sweet deal for animals. The thing that really bugs me is the ignorance and 'we love puppies' BS propaganda and lies they use to get their billions of dollars in contributions annually. Just think of what that money could do if it were actually dedicated to actually helping animals!
    I GREE 100% I am all for animal rights, and any animal producer should be because it allows for better production and easier to handl animals. I'm 100% AGAINST animal rights. They are not people, but they should be treated with respect. They do not have the same rights as humans and I would never consider the life of a child as the same value of an animal's life.
         
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        10-31-2009, 04:49 PM
      #222
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes    
    Alli09 - PETA Kills Animals? At Deceiver.com

    PETA Kills Animals | PetaKillsAnimals.com
    Better dead than fed, PETA says

    PETA Kills Animals -- And It's A Felony

    I'm sorry, but I don't think that they're just dealing with extreme cases here. Ignore the inflammatory bs in these articles, but all the same it doesn't show a good side of PETA.
    well of course it doesn't.The people that made those sites are going to make PETA look as bad as they can because of the fact that they are turning people vegan.
         
        10-31-2009, 06:41 PM
      #223
    Green Broke
    Kind of like how PETA makes everything look as bad as they can, even if it means completely false information and blatant disregard for anyone elses opinion? :roll:
         
        10-31-2009, 08:10 PM
      #224
    Trained
    One of the tours I was did the group where what you all call Vegan. There was a different term for them back then. They tried to make everyone on tour to eat that way. If you had any meat they would where gone. Things is they could not do that to the drivers which I was one of and we would get out our grills and get a big juicy stake and grill out. Piss them off to no end but there was nothing they could do. That was really one of the best tours I have even done.
         
        10-31-2009, 08:22 PM
      #225
    Trained
    Fine, here is some proof right from the source (from HSUS and PETA):

    We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding ...One generation and out. We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.
    - Animal People News (May 1, 1993)



    Arson, property destruction, burglary, and theft are ‘acceptable crimes’ when used for the animal cause.
    - PETA co-founder Alex Pacheco lists the “acceptable” tactics to fight for animal rights, Associated Press (January 3, 1989)



    My whole goal is for humans to have as little contact as possible with animals.
    - Associated Press (December 7, 1998) Gary Yourofsky
    Humane Education Lecturer


    In the end, I think it would be lovely if we stopped this whole notion of pets altogether.
    - Newsday (February 21, 1988)


    Humans have grown like a cancer. We're the biggest blight on the face of the earth.
    - Washingtonian magazine (February 1, 1990)


    To me, it doesn't sound like PETA just wants us to be Vegan. (Hell, I have a few anti-PETA Vegan friends)
    They want all animals to be "free" and think humans are a cancer.

    They say that they wouldnt support animal testing even if it cured AIDS...I wonder if they'd support vivisection on humans if it cured HYPP, Lethal White, Leukemia in cats...
         
        10-31-2009, 09:51 PM
      #226
    Foal
    You are making it seem like everyone in PETA is like that.Some are idiots, but some are really in it for the help of the animals.There are a lot of famous people that are a part of PETA and they REALLY care about the animals and are doing a lot to help them.
         
        10-31-2009, 09:53 PM
      #227
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    One of the tours I was did the group where what you all call Vegan. There was a different term for them back then. They tried to make everyone on tour to eat that way. If you had any meat they would where gone. Things is they could not do that to the drivers which I was one of and we would get out our grills and get a big juicy stake and grill out. Piss them off to no end but there was nothing they could do. That was really one of the best tours I have even done.
    so it was a vegan tour and they got upset when people would eat meat? BIG shocker.
         
        10-31-2009, 10:06 PM
      #228
    Green Broke
    All PETA does is make a lot of good people hate them. Its kinda like SHARK, some group against rodeo. They pick and prod at all the not so good parts of rodeo, but refuse to look at other events like barrel racing that have no harm to the animal (when with a good rider, and good footing, etc). They freaked when a bronc broke its leg, but refused to look at the kindness of the pick up men patting him, removing his halter and ropes, and trying to move him away from the noise to have him be put down in a better setting.
    That's just my opinion:)
         
        10-31-2009, 10:28 PM
      #229
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alli09    
    so it was a vegan tour and they got upset when people would eat meat? BIG shocker.
    No it was a rock tour and they tried to force their views on the crew, band and support. Did not work with the drivers. They needed us more then we needed them. That is the problem with people like that. I do not care what they eat but when they tried to make the rest of the crew eat what they wanted. That was too fare.
         
        10-31-2009, 11:39 PM
      #230
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alli09    
    You are making it seem like everyone in PETA is like that.Some are idiots, but some are really in it for the help of the animals.There are a lot of famous people that are a part of PETA and they REALLY care about the animals and are doing a lot to help them.
    They THINK they are doing alot to help them but in thier ignorance they usually do as much harm as they do good. Just because famous people are in an organization doesn't make it good. Most of the time, in my opinion, it does the opposite.
         

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