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#1 ·
Ok, I was just reading a thread about horse racing and such and I saw PETA mentioned many times in it. It seems most of the members in this forum are against PETA but it also appears that there are a few people who seem somewhat supportive of them.

I was just wondering where everyone stands on this controversial group. I've looked around a little to see what PETA members and endorsers are saying and quite frankly in my opinion I cannot see how anyone could support such a group of people. They are a lot like terrorists in their beliefs and thought processes.

For example, here are some quotes from members of the PETA group. (note that they hold animal lives equal if not above human lives)

So for those of you who say "PETA does some good", why not rethink what you're condoning?


"Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler
chickens will die this year in slaughter houses.
-Ingrid Newkirk (PETA)"
(_Washington_Post_, Nov 13, 1983)

"We feel animals have the same rights as a retarded human child.
-Alex Pacheco (PETA)"
(_New_York_Times_, Jan 14, 1989)

"
Pet ownership is an "absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
-Ingrid Newkirk, PETA"
(_Washingtonian_Magazine_, August 1986)

"Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are "acceptable crimes"
when used for the animals' cause."
-Alex Pacheco (PETA)
(_Charleston,_W._VA_Gazette-Mail_, Jan 15, 1989)


"The optimum human population of earth is zero."
-Dave Foreman, Earth First!

"More
than anything we applied arson, and effectively we destroyed -- um,
let’s see -- the Northwest Fur Breeders Cooperative in Edmonds,
Washington, which we hit a week later after OSU. We hit Washington
State University’s Eastern Washington experimental fur farm. We did get
seven coyotes out of there, six mink, and ten mice … We burned down a
fur farm that was on the market to be sold, in Oregon also. We went to
the Michigan State University’s experimental fur farm program and
destroyed thirty-two years of research, by using fire once again, and
rescued two mink from there."
- SHAC rally, Edison, New Jersey (November 30, 2002)


In essence, PETA does NOT condone people having pets, it's goal is that there is absolutely no contact between animals and people.

 
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#57 ·
I do not support the group as whole, or most of the things they do. However, in certain circumstances, when there are no other options, they can be really helpful at getting things accomplished. They do truly care about the well being of animals. And I can speak from experience.
 
#59 ·
The whole issue about people dumping horses, yes they are domestic, there SHOULD be a law against it but people keep getting away with it. There are so many rescue horses in this state due to that happening. And no, people do NOT want horses just dumped in their fields.
 
#61 ·
It's sad that groups like PETA, that started out with such good intentions and that could have done some real good in the world, seem to naturally attract extremists who manage to spoil everything... (I believe something similar happened with Greenpeace?)

I am sure there are good people involved with PETA, and some of their 'stunts' may occasionally raise public awareness about certain issues. However from reading this thread and from my observations elsewhere it seems that what they do best is upset people, and give the strong first impression that they are an organisation full of loonies!

It sucks when it happens to groups that I should agree with in theory, but their extreme actions and statements make it impossible for me to want to be associated with them at all :-(
 
#63 ·
County, you can get as good of an idea as I can by looking up the books. It's just something a person who works with the human society mentioned to me when I was working with them to look for a suitable horse to take in. They mentioned that people were dumping horses off in fields left and right and that there was no law keeping them from doing so.
 
#66 ·
I suppose you may be right then, County. It doesn't stop it from happening a LOT around here though.

As far as this thread goes, it gave me the insight into this forum's community I was looking for. To see who was for PETA, who's against them and who just sits in the middle. There are more variables but that's the gist.
 
#67 ·
The thing with Peta is, is that the only ones you hear about are those who throw the huge fuss about everything. The extremists, which gives them a bad name. As I said before, I'm not exactly a fan of their views on many things, but I'm also not so against them that I don't support anything they say.

I'm not for animal testing or abuse [among other things], but I still don't like Peta very much.

What you were saying about people abandoning horses, though, it happens here, too. They'll tie them to trees and leave, or people will lock up barns and call it quits-with the horses still inside. It's terrible what some people do here, and I'm not sure if there's a law against it or not. >.<
 
#68 ·
News article on horse abandonment in Oregon- Proposed Oregon law makes horse abandonment a felony - OregonLive.com



On PETA I think anything that brings light to animal abuse is a good thing. That said I think there are limits to what people view as protest and what they see as fanatical behavior. In my opinion PETA has definitely crossed over into the fanatics camp.
 
#69 ·
PETA's own vice president takes insulin that was tested on animals, but tries to justify it by saying that she needs it to continue the fight for animal rights. Yea, it's ok for them to be hyprocrites and use products tested on animals, but nobody else can. :roll:

They've also killed around 1900 of the 2000 (those numbers are just guesses on my part, but the information can easily be found) animals that they took in during the past few years. What a surprise.
 
#71 ·
As livestock under Oregon law, horses can be legally abandoned by their owners.
I found that in the link Vidaloco posted!!! So I guess I wasn't off the mark about it being legal to abandon a horse in Oregon.
 
#72 ·
PETA is so ridiculous.

I heard that they want Ben & Jerry's to use HUMAN milk in their ice cream rather than cow's milk. Heh, yeah, torture the people and make the cows sick. Brilliant idea. :roll:

They also want to name fish SEA KITTENS. Because who would want to eat a precious little sea kitten? :roll:

And they want to stop animal testing for medications, etc. I mean come on. What if it means finding a cure for cancer or AIDS? Would you rather protect a rat or rabbit or something or cure deadly diseases?

Good grief.
 
#73 ·
The depth of my irritation and nigh-hatred for PETA does not bear discussion on this forum. Suffice to say, there are SOME good people (nothing is entirely evil) within it, but most of them are so misinformed that I just have no patience whatsoever to even suggest rehab for them. They can go through the rest of their lives delusional, I just don't care. There are better ways to go about making animals' lives better, and they're so psychotic that they're never going to get to a point where they can even begin to understand the subject. Useless -- a waste of otherwise good peoples' time and money. And a danger to society.
 
#74 ·
I just went to their site, and I could go over there and punch them all in the faces.
What idiots. They don't know anything! Are they trying to tell us that humans should all be dead, and animals rule the world? WHAT THE HECK! Animals and humans can live in harmony, but people who eat fish or meat isn't horrible! And.. HORSE RIDING IS NOT CRUEL... they think horses should not be captive, and not be ridden.. etc. Horses actually LOVE our attention. They love being ridden, and they are part of the family... OF course you know if the horse likes being ridden or not, cause some horses just want to keep riding forever... but some buck and go nuts. But, to earn respect by people, we need horses respect. So we are equal. If we just set our horses free, they would die in no time... over the years, they have come to us for their protection... they wouldn't know how to live in the wild.

Some of PETA's statements are fine.... like not to slaughter seals cruelly and such... but, HUMANS have RIGHTS too!! LIKE GOD! They don't even care about us... maybe they wouldn't be too sure if they got killed.
I think all they are is just a big clump of TALK.. they dont know what their doing, they dunno anything... they dont do what they say.. THEY NEED TO GET THEIR HEADS CHECKED..

RETARDED!! Like, I would rather die than get rid of my animals, they are like family to me. If anything happened to them, I wouldn't know what to do.... Just cause we keep animals as pets, DOES NOT mean we are cruel to them.. JEEZ.. some people need to get over themselves

Sorry about my long rant.. I just had to get it all out :]
 
#75 ·
And to add, I AM NOT A MEAT EATER... does that mean I hate EVERYONE WHO EATS MEAT?? NO! MY family eats meat, my friends eat meat, tons of people eat meat!

I just dont believe in slaughtering animals unhumanely..
 
#77 ·
The sad reality is PETA is an extremist organization that has lured tons of people to follow their "cause" Any organization that resorts to burglary, arson or any other type of criminal activity should be held accountable. Until people wake up and start fighting against such organizations their control will become greater and greater. The very idea of using human milk in ice cream is proof if there wasn't before these people are off their rockers! That is beyond disgusting ewwww.
It is their extremist views that make them dangerous, and to the poster who stated they are terrorists I totally agree because they will stop at nothing to get their views across regardless of who or what they hurt in the process.
 
#79 ·
PETA is an extremist organization that has no problem with engaging in criminal behavior for shock value and attention. The leaders of this organizatiion are living very well off of donations from bleeding hearts who really believe they are helping animals. If you really want to help then rescue a horse or adopt an unwanted dog or cat. Don't give your money to PETA to support their dog/cat death camps.
 
#80 ·
COMPLETELY Agree'd

PETA Also has a higher % of animals put to death as they only can adopt out a low single digit amount of the animals they do rescue.

PETA = Urban Terrorist.
 
#82 ·
I agree with that as well.
 
#83 ·
I am not a fan of PETA at all.... Those people are nut jobs.... they are more of a cult than an organization.... My family has been in ranching more generations than I can go back and we have had PETA people let our cattle out, take our chickens, rabbits, etc.... Finally we told the sheriff if he wasn't going to do anything about it we will.... (By the way it is HIGHLY illegal to steal livestock where im from), so we started shooting... not to kill, just to scare them... it worked... and another thing is they like to go to rodeos and say what we are doing there is "one of the cruelest of all".... I don't get these people... they must be sniffin paint... Looneys I swear...
 
#84 ·
I really really do not like PETA. I know many people who suffer every day because of them. (They raise chickens). They should be closed down. It a very athestic organization. Just my 2 cents.
 
#89 ·
just FYI, atheists have nothing to do with PETA. i am an Atheist, (also im completely against PETA) and i personally take offence that our religion (or lack there of) is put to a connection to this crazy 'orginization'.

anyway, im personally completely against it. PETA has unfortunatly brain-washed a good percentage of young minds. many of my classmates believe that PETA is doing 'good', it drives me mad. when i tell them about what is really going on, i take so much crap. i just think PETA is as crazy as you can get.

the biggest offence i take is when PETA people that telling me that riding my horses is "crule" and that they dont like it. they think that my horses (who where raised in captivity) would do SO much better out in the wild! it drives me crazy when people tell me how im not doing my horses any good, especailly when they have no experence with these creatures. :|
 
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