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        03-11-2014, 06:31 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    If animal rights activists had any idea, they'd quit whilst they were ahead. One day (hopefully) people everywhere will smarten up and get sick of their stupidity.

    On the animal welfare front, more people need to be doing things like these guys, the Kiwi Care Team, are. I have endless respect for what they do. Same with charities like Prince Fluffy Kareem. 'Welfarists' are the only people I'll ever get behind.


    Although I do enjoy looking at the PETA website to see what silly things they're up to xD
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        03-11-2014, 11:21 AM
      #22
    Weanling
    When I showed dogs, for a while PEta members were coming around and opening dog crates so the dogs could "be free". Several were hit by cars. Also, I was in a therapy dog organization, and at the yearly pet expo, we would dress our dogs up and ask for donations. A very well known actor who belonged to peta complained to the local spca about me. They knew me, and just laughed. Firstly, my dog ENJOYED getting dressed up (she would get excited and wag her tail when I brought out her costumes), and secondly - aswas mentioned earlier - if I ask her to "work" for an our or two I don't believe that is wrong. We givee our animals food,, shelter, medical attention, and love. Most people would jump at the chance of getting all of their needs taken care of by working only a few hours a week.
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        03-11-2014, 02:32 PM
      #23
    Trained
    It sounds like you need ID checks for everybody who attends, views especially, AND video surveillance...and a good attorney to sue the *******s who let the dogs out. =/
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        03-11-2014, 05:02 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Painted horses.. I heard this from a breeder of Bird dogs. Nothing wrong with bird dogs, I know people who used dogs for pig hunts, the dogs are Bred for the specific ability for hunting.
    There are trespass laws in effect and those are what need enforced.
    And as for fools that hunt near roadsides,, well.. you just can't fix stupid.
         
        03-12-2014, 02:22 PM
      #25
    Showing
    The best way to fight back is to destroy the credibility of the NYCLASS. Are they all vegetarians or are they able to justify eating meat from animals held in crowded holding pens. These carriage owner/operators are fully aware that the public wants to see well tended horses. NYCLASS is after a relatively small group. Shut them down and they'll be running around patting themselves on the back. They have no regard for throwing people out of work and if they are successful, I'll bet they haven't tho't about possible repercussions that could happen to either themselves or their families.
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        03-12-2014, 05:09 PM
      #26
    Super Moderator
    FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!

    From what I can find out, the first people that 'worked' with the Mayor to try to get him to 'save' the carriage horses had a vested interest in developing the prime real estate that the NY Carriage barns sit on. Does that resonate with anyone?

    All of these causes are rooted in money some where. Then all the little 'do goodies' jump at the opportunity to have a cause they think is noble.

    We had a County Fair one time that had a letter sent in to the editors of the main newspaper in the state and several things brought to the attention of the other AG teachers, leaders and the County Sheriff stating that people had seen horses and cattle being led with harsh chains on their head and that any chain on an animal was cruel the people should be stopped from this horrible practice immediately. I guess you know how far that got in Oklahoma, but they are still out there somewhere trying to stop all use of any animals.
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        03-12-2014, 05:18 PM
      #27
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    Thanks for posting Cherie
    These people are actually an animals worst enemy because they won't be happy until there are no animals left for them to feel sorry for
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