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post #91 of 93 Old 03-18-2008, 10:31 AM
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post #92 of 93 Old 04-01-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Deb
I am sorry but I absolutely don't agree with you. Have you ever done a search on "Horse slaughter"? Do you have any idea what the shipping of horses for slaughter is like, or what the poor animals face when they get to the slaughter house. The sheer brutality of the whole process is horrendous. I saw one video where a stock truck arrived with a horses hoof stuck through one of those openings in the side of it. They cut its foot off so that they could get it out, then hauled the poor animal out with a chain. Horses are not fed or watered for sometimes several days at a time on the road as it affects the schedule. The people (and I use the term loosely) in the slaughterhouse, hit them, scream at them, all in an effort to keep the line moving. The bolt gun used to stun them isn't always effective. The target is moving, so instead of one good shot where it does what it is supposed to do, it might take as many as four shots, each time causing only more pain and terror. And horse slaughter is banned in most of the states, but apparently not all. So the extra horses that you see standing in auction yards all over the country are going to be subjected to long trips, without food, without water. And there are no laws to protect them. They are victims.

They are victims of everyones need to let their mare have one baby because they are so cute. They are victims of people who turn that sweet mare that has obvious problems that preclude her from being a working horse, into a broodmare. Next time you drive by a field full of babies frolicking in the sunshine, ask yourself how many of them will wind up on the killing floor.

I have two mares that have never been bred. They never will be and I moved from one side of the country to the other so that I could buy a piece of property that had fields for them to wander in until the end of their days. People like me are horse lovers, we love them enough not to bring more into the world.
Well Horses are still being slaughtered now they just have to travel further Mexico Canada american Horses still have to travel.
All the non slaughter did is make it illegal here.
I believe slaughter has it's place it just neede to be much more humane transport and all.
Now horses face a much worse choice where I am the neglect and strarving of horses has increased a lot hay has trippled in cost.
So now the people that where barley feeding there Horses don't.
Ranches that have working Horses which they don't keep unless they can earn there living are taking them to either there far off pasture where other horses take care of them or they shoot them.
That is just so much better.
I have two Horses both mares 1 draft 1 Arab bot have never been bred and won't be while I own them.
But there are way to many Horses out there and more are born everysday with little to no purpose other than someone didn't have a better use for there mare.
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post #93 of 93 Old 04-03-2008, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tim
About overpopulation and the "unwanted horse" with regards to the U.S. government.

1. The government is not going to solve this problem for us.

2. There is no Federal Law against horse slaughter and eating horses. It passed the House but was never considered in the Senate.

3. The laws against slaughter are all State laws, mostly from Texas.

4. There are laws currently being considered that will ban the exportation of horses to other nations for slaughter.

The best solution to the problem is to take responsible care of your own horses and influence the decisions of others to do the same.

And for the first time in the history of this industry, euthanization is being considered for the disposal of unwanted horses. This has been a method of controlling dog and cat populations for years but it has never been considered before now for horses on the same scale. There might come a time when the most common procedure for unwanted and neglected horses is euthanization.

That would be great except it isn't that expensive to euthanize a dog or cat but a Horse.
I have had several friends that had to go that route and about 400 dollars later they where there.
Between the vet and the disposal of the Horse it isn't cheap.
And a lot of places that use Horses for commercial use used to take there Horse to slaughter because they still got some money out of them and it didn't cost them to get rid of the animal.
But I absolutley agree with you on we all need to do our part to quit creating more horses just to fing something to do for that mare.
Breeding if done at all should be done to improve on the Horse not to just use a mare because it has no other job.
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