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post #81 of 86 Old 07-06-2011, 07:55 PM
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Kitten Val - Europe is I'm sure a small Market compared to the US. However, it is increasing rapidly, and the German Market for reining is huge compared to the rest. Michael Schumacher built a ranch after retiring from F1 and was considering going pro. (along with his motorbike racing) He bought a lot of horses from the Sternberg sisters who own Bodium in the Uk and also Sterling ranch in Texas, as well as both being on the UK team. (my own horse is from One of their stallions) Michaels wife has hosted the after show party for Bodium ( the garden of England show) before now. So you get an idea that it's possibly got less grass roots accessibility than perhaps in the US say. In Europe it's definitely a sport for the 'better off' with little way to access it if you aren't flush.
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Wait--I just noticed...why and when did this thread get moved to Horse Protection? I clearly started it in Training, as I feel it is a training issue. It's not an ASPCA or a HSUS or a PETA thing, but an industry standard...that could be where some of the misinterpretation of subject matter is coming from...
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Germany is a growing reining market. My mares full brother was sold to a person in Germany. Europe as whole is a growing market for reining. If they continue to import some more good horses and get some good breeding programs going it will continue to grow.

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They don't care about the fall out rate or the longevity of the horse. Like you said, once it's had a win or two it's more valuable as a stud. It's a business. Longevity is of little concern. They have no use for 20 year old horses knocking around their barns - what would they do with them, they are space and cost. Bottom line if it doesn't pay the rent, it's dogfood.
Geee I will have to ask my 19 year old stud how he feels.

But I don't have to for put a jump in front of him and too bad if you don't stay on...he is going over it. Interesting that he is completely clean legged, with no soreness and completely vital and still ready to have the ladies line up for him.

He even looks like a 8 year old.

Your stallion argument does not wash for a good stallion is just that...too good to be pushed into anything that would harm him. Mine is retired and no I get no income from him.
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Geee I will have to ask my 19 year old stud how he feels.

But I don't have to for put a jump in front of him and too bad if you don't stay on...he is going over it. Interesting that he is completely clean legged, with no soreness and completely vital and still ready to have the ladies line up for him.

He even looks like a 8 year old.

Your stallion argument does not wash for a good stallion is just that...too good to be pushed into anything that would harm him. Mine is retired and no I get no income from him.
Spyder i think you've totally missed the point.
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Wait--I just noticed...why and when did this thread get moved to Horse Protection? I clearly started it in Training, as I feel it is a training issue. It's not an ASPCA or a HSUS or a PETA thing, but an industry standard...that could be where some of the misinterpretation of subject matter is coming from...
Hi bubba13,

I moved this thread to the Horse Protection forum since, while it relates to training, it is not about how to apply any particular training technique, how to correct a behavior, an account of any horse's progress, etc., but is instead a thread essentially advocating protecting horses from harsh or damaging training techniques applied in the interest of competition. Our Horse Protection forum is not reserved for ASPCA, HSUS, or PETA related threads, but is instead meant for threads who's general themes are protecting horses, horse abuse, etc.
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