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post #11 of 60 Old 09-23-2010, 05:55 PM
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I work for $2.83/hr + tips. Its a crap job that allows me to raise my children and make a living. Its not a fancy job...but it helps pay the bills.
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post #12 of 60 Old 09-23-2010, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VelvetsAB View Post
Wouldn't it be better to send your horse to the slaughter house then to someone who isn't going to be able to take care of it?

You hit the nail on the head RB...it is a neccessary evil.

Ray...guess you were lucky enough to get a job where you don't have to worry about being laid off. Must be nice...

i def. agree with you. i was against slaughter for many years til my instructor/trainer. but i see it as necessary now. many of the horses values have decreased. i wouldnt want to see any of my horses abused or in a family that just couldnt afford to take care of them anymore. horses dont sale all that great in this economy. dont think about this with your hearts. you need to think about this subject with your mind. common sense i guess. horse slaughter is a very touchy subject as it is. i wouldnt want to see my beloved horse in a slaughterhouse but i wouldnt want to see him abused and starved either.

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post #13 of 60 Old 09-23-2010, 06:03 PM
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My job wasn't great, but it's paying for the gas to drive my car to go to school and see my horse.

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I'm working retail, $8.50/hr at my new job, $7.50/hr at my old job. Part-time work, and full-time college classes, and six horses, two dogs, a cat, and a rabbit to take care of. I'm grateful for the support my parents give me -- they pay the vet/farrier bills, and dad buys most of the hay. I buy grain/mineral blocks and all of the other horse necessities. I keep gas in the truck and do most of the upkeep on both it and the trailer, drive myself to my shows, and then pay my own show fees too.

So, Ray, think about that. What do you mean by you're not going to do a "normal job"? For one, you'll probably end up working retail or fast food part time eventually. If anything, it looks better on a resume than handing over a blank paper. My dream is to work for IBM or one of those other big computer companies -- I'm working my butt off for that job. But in the meantime, I have to work these not-so-glamorous jobs so I can afford school and still get by, while still building up my resume and job skills.
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post #15 of 60 Old 09-23-2010, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer View Post
Let's hope your parents, siblings, significant other, or anyone you care about lose their jobs, since you don't give a rat's ass about people losing their livelihoods, homes, or being unable to feed and clothe their families.
People in any industry can lose their jobs at any time for any reason. Job security is not a right. Hell, unless you work for the Feds it doesn't even exist anymore. All these "but you're taking away my livelihood" whiners wouldn't last a week with the nerds in the computer industry. There you either change with the times or you sink, and no one will pity you if that happens.

As for the video, if the people who made it really want to do some good they should be focusing on why horses and up at auction houses to begin with.
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post #16 of 60 Old 09-24-2010, 03:31 PM
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I like your post ponyboy,

What I mean is right now I'm 16... Don't plan on getting a job like at the mall or some other place, I'm focusing on horses. I plan on going to AC to get all of the my schooling out of the way.

And I know I am a VERY fortunate kid! I don't have the need to work. And yes, Mommy and Daddy pay for most things, So what? But don't think my parents are some kind of special doctors or anything... My mom is a nurse and my dad works for the highway garage (Builds bridges and drives the snow plow)

I also have 3 older sisters all in college. My parents will pay for the first 2 year of it and if they can't afford it I will get I job I'm not against getting a normal job to save up for my school.

I just really hate horse slaughter because we can fix it. We just have to only breed the best horses and train them the right way so there will always a demand for good quality horses and to stop back yard breeding thats creating most of the horses that go to slaughter.

And don't go bashing my opinion or my life just because I simple disagree with horse slaughter.

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post #17 of 60 Old 09-24-2010, 07:37 PM
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How can we fix horses from going to slaughter when it is obvious that out in the big grand world, people already CANT afford things that they have. People are going bankrupt and having to sell anything they can, including their horses to try to stay above water. If that means their horse has to go through an auction and God forbid to a slaughter house, that little bit of money to keep food on their table and gas in their vehicles so that they CAN get to work for what they make, whether it be for big bucks or minimum with tips. It isn't always the back yard breeding...and some of the best horses aren't papered horses...which are normally more expensive. Top quality horses could still end up run down at the end of their life after being passed through many hands, so then what are you going to do with it? That horse could still end up a rescue....

I don't have any college education and work in a warehouse. I dont make great money but I make decent money. Minimum wage around here is $10ish an hour, but is expensive to live(a decent house is over $200k at least) I live at home(pay rent, for my groceries, car insurance, gas, phone, riding lessons etc etc.) but still wouldnt be able to afford the care of a horse. If I unfortunately lost my job, I would be devastated and sell EVERYTHING I could to be able to afford a vehicle to still be able to go to work. That would include any animals owned.

So if your parents can't afford to pay for your last bit of schooling, and you haven't worked a job up until then, how are you going to pay for the last bit of your schooling? Employers would rather see that you worked that sh!tty job in high school and college as it proves a bit more that you are willing to work for what you have, and to where you have gotten.

ETA: I do not believe in horse slaughter either, but in the end I think that it is better that we have it then not.

It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows. --Epictetus

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post #18 of 60 Old 09-24-2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer View Post
So what kind of 'non-normal' job do you plan to get? I'm not very happy with your snobby attitude about minimum wage jobs. They're honest work, and many fine people work for minimum wage. Not everyone is going to make $100,000 a year, you know.

You're obviously a child who has no concept of what it means to have to scrape, scrabble, and earn a decent living wage.

If you think you're going to come out of HS or college and make a six figure salary, you're very mistaken. You'll be lucky to get $20,000 a year to start.

So be extremely thankful that Mommy and Daddy are footing all your bills at the moment, and hope you're not kicked out of the nest to fend for yourself sooner than you want.

It's interesting that somehow I found the time to work full time, go to college at night, and manage to care for my own horse. But then, I guess I'm not as delicate and special as some.
Well said. I think Ray is lacking in reality of how the world really works.

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post #19 of 60 Old 09-24-2010, 08:10 PM
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In some areas yes! LOL Because I think if I knew everything I'd be murdering people...

I do understand that there are just to many horses on this earth, I wasn't talking about some quick fix, I mean if we only bred the best horses to get the best foals there wouldn't be need for slaughter.

And I do understand about the loosing the job and trying to stay okay... And I can and will work if need be.

Sorry to be a pain about the whole thing its just that I have been teased and absolutly tormented about the killing and abuse of horses. And of course my stubborn and strong love for horses has pretty much drove me to freak when someone isn't totally anti-slaughter.

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #20 of 60 Old 09-24-2010, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald View Post
my dad works for the highway garage (Builds bridges and drives the snow plow)
Please thank your dad for doing his job because I would be horribly screwed without people like him.

Okay, back on topic, I'll go back to my cave now.

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