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        09-24-2010, 10:12 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
    I do understand that there are just to many horses on this earth, I wasn't talking about some quick fix, I mean if we only bred the best horses to get the best foals there wouldn't be need for slaughter.
    Those foals sound like they would come with a higher price tag to begin with...
         
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        09-24-2010, 10:59 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
    In some areas yes! LOL Because I think if I knew everything I'd be murdering people...

    I do understand that there are just to many horses on this earth, I wasn't talking about some quick fix, I mean if we only bred the best horses to get the best foals there wouldn't be need for slaughter.

    And I do understand about the loosing the job and trying to stay okay... And I can and will work if need be.

    Sorry to be a pain about the whole thing its just that I have been teased and absolutly tormented about the killing and abuse of horses. And of course my stubborn and strong love for horses has pretty much drove me to freak when someone isn't totally anti-slaughter.
    If you have such a great love for horses then I think you would understand why it's better that horses get slaughtered then die slowly and cruelly by people who were meant to do right by them.

    And that is happening every single day in this country. We have taken in more abuse cases at our barn then ever. And because of the serious lack of care have lost many.

    Anyone that says they love horses could not want them to end their lives so horribly. There are not enough people to adopt them all. There are too many backyard breeders with no knowledge on what they are doing and with our economy so many people have gotten out of horses.

    Slaughter isn't bad if it's done humanely and it can be done humanely. It needs to be better enforced and better laws to protect any animal that goes to a slaughter house.
         
        09-25-2010, 12:11 AM
      #23
    Yearling
    I think most of us at age 16 were horrified by the idea of horse slaughter, and were willing to crusade to save them all. It is a very idealistic age.
    Ray, I am glad that you recognize how fortunate your position in life is, many are not so lucky.
    No one Likes the idea of killing so many horses, but as mentioned here (and in the puppy thread) it is a necessary evil.
         
        09-25-2010, 03:34 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    Yeah, I do completely understand why it is necessary because there are too many horses. But I do still firmly believe we can fix it... and if those foals do come a little more expensive maybe they would be taken better care of, you could buy a $100 car or a 20,000 to 50,00 dollar car, which would you take care of better?

    And it's just that a lot of them don't do it humanly... They are crammed into small trailers and they fall down, don't get food or water for long periods of time, and when they do get there people don't give a **** about them...

    And I will try to save 'em all! ;) at least as many as I can (financially)
         
        09-25-2010, 07:48 PM
      #25
    Green Broke
    There are Ministry of Transportation (here in Canada) rules as well as DOT (US) restrictions and regulations on the transport of horses. Yes, some people wont abide by the rules, but they would get HEFTY fines. If I remember correctly, there are also rules about this as well but I can't remember what they are off the top of my head.

    I dunno about anyone else, by my $2500 fifteen year old car means the world to me. No car = hard time getting to work = no riding lessons. Just cause she's old doesnt mean I am going to beat the poop out of her! Betsy is probably not worth much as when I got her, but still. Most people are in the same situation unless they buy a winter beater for that purpose (only because apparently people who grew up around snow can't drive in snow...go figures).
         
        09-26-2010, 10:45 AM
      #26
    Green Broke
    I mean if you do buy a little crap car for $100 or one for $2500 which one would you take better care of? And my sister just bought a car not that long ago for I think only $1000? It's a nice little car!

    Why can't they drive in snow?
         
        09-26-2010, 11:18 AM
      #27
    Green Broke
    $2500 is still a cheap car.... Most of the time for that much around here you wont get anything that has less then 200,000 km's on them, and most of the time rough shape. You can get lucky of course, but it still isn't really truely a good car. I got lucky and bought it off my brother who had gotten it from my grandparents. It was low kms, never winter driven as it was in Florida, so the salt has only had a few years to eat away at the car. I've still put at least that amount into repairs on it, so really it is now getting close to a $6000 car. That isn't even considering the insurance on it, or oil changes.

    But it is the same with horse....not all horses have to be expensive to be good. You can get PMU colts that are good for anything you want them to do. You add some training onto them and the now $400 colt is now a $2000 colt. In the end, I think it would be too difficult to stop BYB effectively enough that there wouldn't be any unwanted horses out there to go to slaughter. Some jackbutt is still going to do it because he can. Besides, well bred horses can still have problems. Look at QH's for example with the Lethal White and the HYPP. We had a well bred baby a few years back that had something wrong internally and he peed out of his umbilical cord. Just because a horse has a good pedigree doesn't mean he will be a good horse either. The Earl line of Standardbred's are fast horse, but honestly it seems almost all of his offspring get his nasty temperment.....people keep breeding to this line because it (usually) produces a fast horse.

    Scared. Bad drivers. Don't understand 2 or 4 wheel drive vehicles. Not enough driving experience. Etc etc.
         
        09-26-2010, 10:32 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
    I mean if you do buy a little crap car for $100 or one for $2500 which one would you take better care of? And my sister just bought a car not that long ago for I think only $1000? It's a nice little car!

    Why can't they drive in snow?
    You take good care for both if that is what gets your butt to work everyday.
         
        09-27-2010, 10:51 AM
      #29
    Green Broke
    I'm going to stop posting here because I don't even know if your getting my point?
    Anyway around here you can get a pretty good car for $2000.
    And I do and probably will always stand by my opinion.
         
        09-27-2010, 12:38 PM
      #30
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
    But I do still firmly believe we can fix it... and if those foals do come a little more expensive maybe they would be taken better care of, you could buy a $100 car or a 20,000 to 50,00 dollar car, which would you take care of better?
    I got JJ for the sum total of zero dollars. I adore that horse. He's worth as much or more to me than any of the horses I've paid good money for over the years.

    I find it insulting that you would believe those of us who take on a horse for little or nothing would treat them less well than those for whom we've paid a hefty price.

    It doesn't work that way. Horses are living, breathing, sentient beings. You can't compare them to an inanimate object like a car. It's like comparing apples to kangaroos.

    I take good care of my vehicle as well. Brand new it cost me far less than $20,000. I've had it for 13 years now, and I've spent a lot of money keeping it on the road. So there goes your theory out the window for horses AND vehicles.
         

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