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post #21 of 75 Old 03-16-2011, 11:49 AM
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Okay, I want to know something:

I'm told that bulls and broncs buck naturally, and it's what they're bred to do. Which is fine. But why then, do they put bucking straps on them? If it makes them buck harder, it must be at least a little uncomfortable.

Also, are broncos friendly when they're not being ridden?

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post #22 of 75 Old 03-16-2011, 11:59 AM
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Why would anyone in the rodeo profession want to purposely injure an expensive animal? It would cost them a lot less to make sure everything is done correctly for the sack of the animals.

This is what I read about the bucking strap:

A "flank strap" (or, "bucking strap") is used to encourage the horse to kick out straighter and higher when it bucks. The flank strap is about 4 inches wide, is usually covered in sheepskin and fastens behind the widest part of the abdomen. Flank straps that hurt the horse are not allowed by rodeo rules in the United States.[7]
However, a bucking strap has to be an incentive, not a prod, or the horse will quickly sour and refuse to work. A horse in pain will become sullen and not buck very well,[2][3] and harm to the genitalia is anatomically impossible because the stifle joint of the hind leg limits how far back a flank strap can be attached.[3][7]
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has stated that burrs and other irritants are at times placed under the flank strap and that improperly used flank straps can cause open wounds and burns if the hair is rubbed off and the skin is chafed raw.[10] However, while the implied argument behind this claim is that pain "makes" the horse buck, in actual practice, irritants or pain in general actually interfere with a horse's ability to buck in an energetic and athletic fashion.[11]
The city of Pittsburgh has specifically prohibited the use of flank straps as well as electric prods or shocking devices, wire tie-downs, and sharpened or fixed spurs or rowels at rodeos or rodeo-related events. Some other cities and states have passed similar prohibitions.


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Okay, I want to know something:

I'm told that bulls and broncs buck naturally, and it's what they're bred to do. Which is fine. But why then, do they put bucking straps on them? If it makes them buck harder, it must be at least a little uncomfortable.

Also, are broncos friendly when they're not being ridden?
The strap only emphasizes the quality of the buck itself. Much like we desensitize our horses to saddles, hobbles, bucking straps on saddles etc.. if they don't start out bred well for it, eventually they'll cool off. Those horses buck either way.

On the flip side I've seen enough ex-broncos who are now saddle horses. Normally because they "fizzle" in the rodeo arena.

As far as the ability to handle them, I've seen both bulls and horses who are ground broke and some who are chute only.

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Each to their own, if you don't support rodeo, don't go, simple.

I wasn't sure how I felt about rodeo, living in the UK I'd only seen it on TV, actually attending live rodeos though, well it allowed me to make up my own mind.

Rodeo is dangerous, people and animals get hurt, but hey people and animals get hurt every day, racing, gymkhana, schooling, jumping, tripping over their pet cat and falling down the stairs....

There isn't one rodeo event where the objective is to hurt or damage the animals, and from what I have seen the animals don't appear to be traumatized by the events, unlike the cowboys who frequently are very traumatized.

I respect anyone right to be against rodeo, and I support those of us who enjoy watching it
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sigh..again?? Rodeo Kills?? Really? That's not at all over dramatized..(being sarcastic)

I respect your opinions if you don't like rodeo..personally I love it.

The animals in rodeos are bred to do their job and most of the animals I've ever seen have been treated extremely well and healthy. They are high prized animals and the people compete in rodeos do it because the love of the sport AND the animals..I have seen animals get hurt but I promise I've seen the humans get ALOT WORSE than the animals..

The bucking stap is not hurting the animal, like Shutupjoe said, It's there to make the bucking straighter and neater..

I've seen broncs that were extremely well tempered and I've seen some mean as H***...same with the bulls..

My guess would be that you've seen wayyy too many PETA videos and haven't been to a real rodeo..It's nothing like PETA makes it out to be because PETA are idiots that only want people to see the worst side of something.

I could keep going but I just don't feel like arguing..PETA just P*sses me off in general..

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I know a few bull contractors, one of which I've photographed for. He has a bull that frequents the PBR and he yanked that bull out of the show faster than 8 seconds at the first sign of a little snot dripping from his nose. These guys love their bulls and they take incredible care of them. You watch a bull take a victory lap around an arena and tell me they aren't having a good time! Sarahver has it exactly right. They live the high life and buck once in a while (which many of them love). A good contractor even forms relationships with them. You tell any cowboy who has ridden that they don't respect the bull and the horse and they'll tell you different.

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^^^ love it..

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I'm honestly more worried about the racing industry than the rodeo, but that's a completely different topic sooo...

I agree with the majority here, I don't have anything much to add that hasn't already been said.
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One of the bulls apparently worth $250,000, I suspect he is treated accordingly. As for the horses, if they were mine I would consider them fat and overfed.
The rodeo stock is worth a great deal of money. They are specifically raised and trained for their jobs - just as race horses, cutters, cows for beef or milk or raised specifically for theirs.
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The rodeo stock is worth a great deal of money. They are specifically raised and trained for their jobs - just as race horses, cutters, cows for beef or milk or raised specifically for theirs.
Not sure if you are agreeing with me, correcting me or informing me here? Either way I think we are on the same page?

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