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post #121 of 130 Old 01-13-2008, 10:41 PM
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I'm offended by that remark too.

I had a whole passionate shpiel against the slaughter of horses. Practical reasons and moral reasons, but my browser is a doodoo head.. so I'll have to post it tomorrow (no more time tonight).

Although I do think overbreeding is the problem, so educating people about breeding should help. Asking questions like "Will this foal be marketable, if so in what possible discipline? Do I need this horse, or am I breeding for the sake of it? Can I afford to keep this horse if the market slumps? Will I have the time to train this horse? If it's not a registerable foal, will it still be in demand/talented?" Sadly (while I don't think it should be true, it sort of is) a horse with papers is often valued over a horse without papers. If your horse isn't registerable with an association, you better take the time to train it and make it marketable to decrease its chances of going to slaugher.
Bubba has a wall up. He/she won't let in anything I say. I let in alot of stuff he/she says but he/she just goes and makes me feel stupid about what I'm saying when I read my posts over and over again and I don't think there is anything wrong with them. It's kind of irritating. My intentions are very good and yet I'm made to be the bad guy here. I'm not the one saying "I'm going to go murder foals".

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post #122 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 09:03 AM
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I'm not sure what your referring to? I was referring to the "I'm going to go murder some foals remark" not anything that you said?
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post #123 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 09:16 AM
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And that right there just about sums up this entire thread.

I'm off to go murder some foals now.....
wow, what a crappy thing to say.

Any respect I had for you or your opinions has totally vanished.


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post #124 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 09:25 AM
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Bubba has a wall up. He/she won't let in anything I say. I let in alot of stuff he/she says but he/she just goes and makes me feel stupid about what I'm saying
You do the same thing
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post #125 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 10:20 AM
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Bubba has a wall up. He/she won't let in anything I say. I let in alot of stuff he/she says but he/she just goes and makes me feel stupid about what I'm saying
You do the same thing
"I let in alot of stuff he/she says"

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post #126 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 10:21 AM
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I'm not sure what your referring to? I was referring to the "I'm going to go murder some foals remark" not anything that you said?
I'm just pointing at that they aren't a good person, even more so then I thought.

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post #127 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 11:43 AM
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It's called sarcasm, my dear friends, and since you were all painting me to be the bad guy, I thought you could sense the sarcasm dripping in my, er, words. My kind friend alli0707 has been giving me this persona of a horse-murderer (since I don't support her ridiculous opinion) so I thought I would give her something to fuel her fire. If you think I was actually going to kill baby horses, then, I must say, you are sadly mistaken.....as I am the one who is actually doing the horse rescuing, as I might remind you.

So, am I still a bad person? I'm not the one making false claims, lying, saying I know more than I do, falsifying evidence, making up bogus statistics, pointing fingers, swearing, putting folks on my "selfish people" list, or being immature.

You may not think I'm nice, but the fact is, I'm not the one being rude, even though others are (and it's directed at me, so I must play the bad guy, even though I'm the only one actually doing anything for equine rights here). I'm simply pointing out what should be obvious and separating fact from fiction, because if there's anything I can't and won't tolerate it's lying.

And, alli0707, as for me "not letting stuff in," I'm not so dedicated to any view I hold that I won't consider change. I am always willing to learn more, and change my opinion as a result, something that you apparently cannot or will not do (instead you retreat and call me a "bad person"). If you had given me any meaningful evidence to support that you were in the right and I was wrong, I honestly would have backed down and admitted my fault. Yet you could produce no statistics, articles, or other information to back up your claims.

I will leave you with this quote from the great Bertrand Russell:
"The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holder’s lack of rational conviction."
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post #128 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 02:43 PM
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It's called sarcasm, my dear friends, and since you were all painting me to be the bad guy, I thought you could sense the sarcasm dripping in my, er, words. My kind friend alli0707 has been giving me this persona of a horse-murderer (since I don't support her ridiculous opinion) so I thought I would give her something to fuel her fire. If you think I was actually going to kill baby horses, then, I must say, you are sadly mistaken.....as I am the one who is actually doing the horse rescuing, as I might remind you.

So, am I still a bad person? I'm not the one making false claims, lying, saying I know more than I do, falsifying evidence, making up bogus statistics, pointing fingers, swearing, putting folks on my "selfish people" list, or being immature.

You may not think I'm nice, but the fact is, I'm not the one being rude, even though others are (and it's directed at me, so I must play the bad guy, even though I'm the only one actually doing anything for equine rights here). I'm simply pointing out what should be obvious and separating fact from fiction, because if there's anything I can't and won't tolerate it's lying.

And, alli0707, as for me "not letting stuff in," I'm not so dedicated to any view I hold that I won't consider change. I am always willing to learn more, and change my opinion as a result, something that you apparently cannot or will not do (instead you retreat and call me a "bad person"). If you had given me any meaningful evidence to support that you were in the right and I was wrong, I honestly would have backed down and admitted my fault. Yet you could produce no statistics, articles, or other information to back up your claims.

I will leave you with this quote from the great Bertrand Russell:
"The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holder’s lack of rational conviction."
you're in denial.

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post #129 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 02:55 PM
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In denial of....? What, pray?

Of being a horrible person who deserves to die? That you are right, and I am wrong?

Notice how the topic has switched from "What to do about equine slaughter" to "You are mean and I hate you."

When you're ready to stop calling me names, let me know, and we can actually discuss solutions to the problem at hand (overbreeding, humane euthanasia, etc.).

I'll be waiting.
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post #130 of 130 Old 01-14-2008, 03:01 PM
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I'm sorry I feel the need to lock this thread. Unfortunately this is a very disturbing topic where opinions are strong. I think we have come to the point to shut er' down. Personal attacks are counterproductive to the atmosphere we're trying to maintain on the Horse Forum, and I see this topic going nowhere but downhill. If the Administrator sees fit to unlock it It will continue.


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