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        01-08-2008, 10:47 AM
      #41
    Green Broke
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    It has been proven that humans were ment to be herbivores. Just look at our teeth is what people say.
    You need to do some more research. Because that is not correct.
         
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        01-08-2008, 11:07 AM
      #42
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    It has been proven that humans were ment to be herbivores. Just look at our teeth is what people say.
    You need to do some more research. Because that is not correct.
    My husband and I had a chuckle over that one :) I do applaud you for being a vegetarian but its one of those opinions that is best not argued.
         
        01-08-2008, 11:52 AM
      #43
    Yearling
    I read somewhere awhile back that we are neither herbivores or carnivores... we are more like Omnivores.
         
        01-08-2008, 01:31 PM
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    I read somewhere awhile back that we are neither herbivores or carnivores... we are more like Omnivores.
    I think you are right Kim. Early man was more of an opportunistic eater. If it was there and it didn't kill you, you ate it.
         
        01-08-2008, 11:02 PM
      #45
    Foal
    Re: Slaughter

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    Originally Posted by .Delete.
    Horse Slaughter is a evil yes, but it is needed. The Amish generally don't care to spend a large sum of money to get their horses put down and shipped away. Considering burrying a horse is illegal. Personally i'd rather have a horse go to slaughter and get killed instintly. Then watching a horse die on the side of the road because someone dosen't want to spend the money to get rid of it. But then also many horses have diseases or defects or even injuries that cannot be cured or fixed. Does that mean they should go to slaughter? No, but id rather have them go to slaughter then, rotting and slowing dieing away in some field. Not matter how much people should care about their horses or what they should do. Does not mean they are going to do it. People are cruel and many feel horses are purely for work. So people send horses to slaughter because they can't afford them. Many people would say "Well they should give them to a rescue place, or to someone who can take care of them". Again, it dosen't matter what they should do. It matters what they do, and what they do is send horses to slaughter. In my opinion slaughter saves alot of horses from much worse death. If I was a horse, id rather be slaughtered then left to rot in a field with nothing but death to look forward to. I'd have it quick and get it over with.

    But then people argue "Think how the horse feels". Well don't you think that's kinda hard? Considering that you can't "talk" to a horse. But who are YOU to assume that, that horse wants to live or die? Who are YOU to say that, that horse wants to be free and run around in a field for the rest of its life and be happy and free. You don't know if that horse would rather be in a show ring, be on a trail, or run around in a pasture. You don't know that. You can only take from what you see in your horse as clues. Like, from what I see my horses are pretty happy. But I don't know that for sure. My horses could hate me and everything about where they are at. But I would never know from they way they act. So, those people who say that, that horse would rather live its life in a beautiful field with a stream and a herd, don't really know that.
    It's people like you that keep slaughter around.If horse slaughter was to end everywhere(mexico, canada and europe) there would be alot of happiness in this world. People keep saying if there wasn't slaughter that there will be a huge upage on neglected horses but since horse slaughter was stopped in california it hasn't happened yet.People need to stop predicting what will happen and give it a chance to see what happens.

    How you could say you would rather be torchered then starve to death? That's just weird to me. I would rather die a slow(not as painful death) then go to slaughter and have people treat me far worse. They starve the horses there anyways. There isn't really a difference except horses that are neglected don't get chopped up into pieces after they die.And they aren't forced to choke to death. Hopefully one of these you will open your eyes and realize that horse slaughter is sick and wrong and needs to be stopped.Especially in Mexico.
         
        01-09-2008, 11:04 AM
      #46
    Green Broke
    Re: Slaughter

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    Originally Posted by alli0707

    It's people like you that keep slaughter around.If horse slaughter was to end everywhere(mexico, canada and europe) there would be alot of happiness in this world. People keep saying if there wasn't slaughter that there will be a huge upage on neglected horses but since horse slaughter was stopped in california it hasn't happened yet.People need to stop predicting what will happen and give it a chance to see what happens.

    How you could say you would rather be torchered then starve to death? That's just weird to me. I would rather die a slow(not as painful death) then go to slaughter and have people treat me far worse. They starve the horses there anyways. There isn't really a difference except horses that are neglected don't get chopped up into pieces after they die.And they aren't forced to choke to death. Hopefully one of these you will open your eyes and realize that horse slaughter is sick and wrong and needs to be stopped.Especially in Mexico.
    I find that EXTREMELY offensive. First off its people like you who spread ignorance and false information about slaughter around. Slaughter houses do not starve their horses. They kill them right away, its painless they don't feel a thing. I go to a slaughter yard about twice a month. I see starved horses go there yes, but they have round bales and tons of hay laying around for them to eat. You preach that people need to stop predicting what will happen?
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    If horse slaughter was to end everywhere(mexico, canada and europe) there would be alot of happiness in this world.
    Hypocrite. So tell me, what is going to happen to all those horses that are ment to go to slaughter? The ones that are disease riddled and arn't being taken care of that were going to be sent to slaughter if they could. Whats going to happen to them? The magical horse fairy is going to give them a perfect live of forever happines with beautiful land where they can live happy and free? No. They will rot and die in a pasture, putting out more toxins into the ground and air causing over all more risky diseases for our horses to get. Don't you see? If slaughter was stopped horses would die and rott in pastures all around the country, the number of horse related diseases will sky rocket and that means more vacc. For your precious horses. You have to think outside of the "Don't hurt the horsie" box. Horses around the country will suffer greatly. Again, who are you to say they don't want to die? If I was them i'd rather get killed instantly and make use of my parts then painfully die of endless suffering and rott putting out potential toxin that could harm another animal.
         
        01-09-2008, 02:44 PM
      #47
    Yearling
    I might be wrong but I was always told that the horses don't die instantly. I saw a TV Documentary on it where they said sometimes they have to use the captured bullet method 2 to 3 times on a horse til they die or bleed to death.

    I also saw this video (graphic. Don't watch if you might get upset.) http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oID=1568865848
    And it looks like they get stabbed to death. Nothing instant about that in my view.

    I still think there needs to be action taken to stop over breeding of horses, cats, dogs, etc... that's where most of the problem is.

    Either way, everyone has the right to their own opinion. Whether you are pro or con...
    All I know is, I will do everything I can to stop the export of horses in the US to slaughter houses.
         
        01-09-2008, 04:35 PM
      #48
    Banned
    The method of slaughter that was used in the US was the penetrating captive bolt gun, which is considered the most humane method of euthanasia--even more than the shot given by vets. It is instantly fatal in something like 98% of cases. Yes, sometimes there are mistakes, and horses suffer. But this is the exception, not the norm.

    In Canada, they shoot the horses. Same deal. Instant and humane.

    In Mexico, some plants use the bolt gun, but some sever the spinal cord--probably the video you were talking about, but I can't view it on this computer. Once they do reach the spinal cord, the horse is paralyzed and cannot breathe....but is still conscious and able to feel pain as it is yanked upside down and bled out.

    Guess where American horses are going to be slaughtered? Mexico!
         
        01-09-2008, 04:56 PM
      #49
    Green Broke
    What most people don't understand is that 99.9% of those in-humane videos you see are from other countries Oh and BTW the food you feed your dog. Most dog feed is made from horse. So preach that you want to "end slaughter" while feeding your dog.[/u][/b]
         
        01-09-2008, 05:26 PM
      #50
    Yearling
    My dog's food doesnt contain horse meat.

    Ingredients: Lamb Meal, Ground Rice, Rice Flour, Rice Bran, Soybean Oil, Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of natural Vitamin E), Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of natural Vitamin E), Natural Flavors, Rice Gluten, Dried Egg Product, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Potassium Chloride, L-Lysine, Dried Kelp (source of Iodine), Salt, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Taurine, Ferrous Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Copper Proteinate, Niacin, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Vitamin A Supplement, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid.
         

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