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        04-04-2008, 08:46 PM
      #11
    tim
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drafthorse01
    Yes I understand it has been discussed to death but while it has been discussed to death sooo many people still make the decission to breed there mare because we just don't have enough Horses.
    I understand that everyont for one reason or another is sick of the discussion and I agree I will end it here but the problem still stay's the same.
    A lot of people will still make the decission that they just have this fantastic mare that just has to have some offspring.
    From Mustang roundups to PMS farms to private breeders it is never there problem it's alawy's the other guy.
    You think this forum will solve all the problems? You think we should just keep beating this issue to death just because the problem remains? Please don't be so naive.
         
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        04-05-2008, 01:36 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    Does the case really need to be reopened... :roll:
         
        04-05-2008, 01:32 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tim
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drafthorse01
    Yes I understand it has been discussed to death but while it has been discussed to death sooo many people still make the decission to breed there mare because we just don't have enough Horses.
    I understand that everyont for one reason or another is sick of the discussion and I agree I will end it here but the problem still stay's the same.
    A lot of people will still make the decission that they just have this fantastic mare that just has to have some offspring.
    From Mustang roundups to PMS farms to private breeders it is never there problem it's alway's the other guy.
    You think this forum will solve all the problems? You think we should just keep beating this issue to death just because the problem remains? Please don't be so naive.

    No I don't think this afaorum will solve the problem it is just a large collection of people loving Horses.
    There is only one thing that can stop this STOP BREEDING MORE.
         
        04-05-2008, 05:34 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Ok it is clear that you are just looking for a good debate/argument. But we have already had ours. Go argue with yourself if you will. Please, spare us from annoyance.
         
        04-06-2008, 12:57 AM
      #15
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by .Delete.
    Ok it is clear that you are just looking for a good debate/argument. But we have already had ours. Go argue with yourself if you will. Please, spare us from annoyance.
    Well there is a solution for you DON'T READ IT.
         
        04-06-2008, 06:01 AM
      #16
    Foal
    Everyone is allowed to have their freedom of speech.

    Just don't exepct other people to reply if they have already discussed it.
         
        04-06-2008, 10:23 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    I think horse slaughter is fine if done humanely. Would you rather have a horse tied to a tree starving to death? Or have a horse go to slaughter and not have to endure the pain for so long? Horse slaughter also keeps the population of horses down. Because thanks to all those back yard breeders (and other reasons) theres a lot of unwanted foals and horses around. Its like hunting deer. Your shooting a deer which is putting it through pain and agony while it dies. Would you rather have that done to a horse or have it sent to slaughter? If it were honestly my choice, id pick slaughter 100%.
         
        04-06-2008, 04:01 PM
      #18
    Foal
    Has anyone even thought of euthanasia (putting an animal to sleep)? This is another way, other than just sending a horse to auction, and thus for slaughter. Maybe even stop breeding just for the h*ll of it. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Spay all animals that aren't suitable breeding animals (conformation, temperment, etc.) Stop breeding very common horses as these are very common in auctions (Tbs, qtr horses, arabs, paints (w/ and w/o markings) Standarbreds) Stop going to races and betting on horses, sorry really don't see a point in this. Don't register animals that approve of slaughter. Truth be told is everything mentioned above means money. And people aren't willing to spend even more money on a 'useless' animal. Instead they try and milk it for all it's worth. To me I'd rather see a good animal be put to sleep, rather than having it suffer, and shame on those who put money before the safety or care of their animals. Slaughter = greed

    If you truely love your animal, and you can't place him in a rescue or have people 'adopt' him (with an adoption contract rescues use), just put him down. Don't know about you, but if it looks like my horse was going to be sent to auction, I'd pay the what? $300? To have him euthanized, rather than have him suffer. All ends don't have to mean slaughter.

    Fast facts:
    1 trailer load that is loaded with horses is roughly $30,000 per trailer load for killers. They either pay for 'no sale' or horses for very little, example a Belgian that weighs 2500lbs for $300

    1lb of horse meat is $15-25 to the slaughter house (foreign owned).

    Horses often suffer in lots, in almost knee high waste, have no water, medical care, or even appropiate feed. Out in the elements.

    Stolen horses often find their ways to slaughter plants (heat is turned up and they don't want to be caught and sent to jail, especially if they are the suspects.). And are slaughtered within the week.

    Often illegal alians buy our horses and ship them to slaughter.

    Just because a horse is hit with a bolt gun doesn't mean he's dead. He's unconcious and could mean he wakes up. Have done papers on slaughter, and it disgusts me. If it wasn't for greed, no animal would have to suffer.


    EUTHANIZE! EUTHANASIA = PAINLESS DEATH!

    SAVE A HORSE! ADOPT ONE! DON'T BUY ONE! DON'T BREED ONE!
         
        04-06-2008, 04:24 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by horsestar8100
    Has anyone even thought of euthanasia (putting an animal to sleep)? This is another way, other than just sending a horse to auction, and thus for slaughter. Maybe even stop breeding just for the h*ll of it. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Spay all animals that aren't suitable breeding animals (conformation, temperment, etc.) Stop breeding very common horses as these are very common in auctions (Tbs, qtr horses, arabs, paints (w/ and w/o markings) Standarbreds) Stop going to races and betting on horses, sorry really don't see a point in this. Don't register animals that approve of slaughter. Truth be told is everything mentioned above means money. And people aren't willing to spend even more money on a 'useless' animal. Instead they try and milk it for all it's worth. To me I'd rather see a good animal be put to sleep, rather than having it suffer, and shame on those who put money before the safety or care of their animals. Slaughter = greed
    yea and what about those who can't afford euthanasia?? Did you think about that? I approve HUMANE slaughter. Slaughter doesn't = greed. I wouldn't slaughter an animal for the money, but if I couldn't afford to humanely put it down, id definitely send my horse to a humane slaughter house. I agree with slaughter. Don't tell me slaughter is greedy blah blah. You need to honestly face the facts. Do you think deer hunting is cruel? What about all other types of slaughter (pigs, chickens, cows, etc.) if your not against those types of slaughter then your one heck of a hypocrite.
         
        04-06-2008, 09:06 PM
      #20
    Foal
    I don't disagree with livestock slaughter...but sending a horse there because you can't afford the cost of euthanizing is BS. If you can't afford the $300, then you can't afford the horse AT ALL! $300 is a very small expense when owning a horse!
         

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