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Slaughter.....Dog Food.....Would You?

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    View Poll Results: Diffucult/Worthless/Etc. Horse..what would you do?
    Sell for slaughter/sell to someone and not keep in touch 7 15.56%
    Tough it out and try to fix the problem 38 84.44%
    Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

     
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        12-27-2008, 09:49 AM
      #161
    Showing
    I just can't get my head around "overbreeding for profit" It simply cost too much to get a horse to slaughter weight - time, feed, if nothing else. Skinny horses do not bring money, fat horses do. Killers buy by the pound not the head.

    If there were breeders doing it just for slaughter, there would be no need for those horses to go to auction. The killers would go to them and keep it out of the lime light.

    If you've ever been to an auction that had a reputation for killer buyers, such as New Holland in PA (where I used to go quite often), the horses in the killer pens were not fat and healthy looking for the very most part. They were the castaways that no one wanted. They were skinny, lame, old and their bid price took into consideration the price per pound.

    There was an old warning that we used to hear when selling a horse, "if the person calling about your horse seems more interested in their weight then anything else, it's probably a killer buyer".
         
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        12-27-2008, 10:47 AM
      #162
    Weanling
    Its rare anyone breeds for the meat market theres just no profit there. And kill buyers buy any young horse they can and many are thin. They take them to a feedlot and feed them up to weight with a normal adult horse that's done rather quickly. Inhumane slaughter? Horse slaughter is pretty much the same as any other species the first time kill rate is a little lower but other wise the system is the same. And of course they do it for moneyy name a business that doersn't want to make money its not out of greed people have a job its to pay their bills.
         
        12-27-2008, 10:53 AM
      #163
    Weanling
    'Slaughter takes care of the overbreeding problem,' this has been stated over and over. But the reality is that big time breeders, the mega farms that churn out hundreds of registered horses all the time, they KNOW even the culls will sell. I personally know a guy who does just this, and his sister has told me there is really no expense to him, except in taxes on his land he would pay anyway. But he advertises as a breeder, makes out like he is so great and knowledgeable, and sells at least a third of his unbroke stock, under 5 years old, btw, to kill buyers. He has little or no overhead, since he set himself up decades ago. He is definitely contributing to the overpopulation problem, with no reguard or sense of responsibility, and he IS being paid by slaughter for his culls.

    I AM glad to see that the truth about all these poor starving horses being 'saved' by slaughter to be a myth, tho.

    No, breeders don't breed for the meat market, or for any other market. They don't usually care where the horse ends up, they breed for the money, nothing else. That in itself isn't bad, but denying responsibility for thier charges is. The breeder I am speakin of definitely sells to the meat men, but I am sure he would rather get a few grand outta them.. THAT is why they make so many, for the few that will bring the right price, big bucks some of them if the person is willing to pay that. For the rest, well, who cares, right? THere is always the meat men and auction houses......
         
        12-27-2008, 11:00 AM
      #164
    Weanling
    Yes theres always meat buyers for every species of livestock thank goodness. People eat meat always have, always will it doesn't get on a plate by magic.
         
        01-06-2009, 02:58 PM
      #165
    Green Broke
    Update. I did sell the sickly pony at a slaughter yard. He only went for 180. Yah.......he didnt go to slaughter tho....i don't think. I had no other choice. I had to get rid of him.
         
        01-06-2009, 05:32 PM
      #166
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by .Delete.    
    Update. I did sell the sickly pony at a slaughter yard. He only went for 180. Yah.......he didnt go to slaughter tho....i don't think. I had no other choice. I had to get rid of him.
    Euthanazia would have been an excellent option.
         
        01-06-2009, 09:00 PM
      #167
    Weanling
    Excellent to who? While its certainly an option its not always excellaent to everyone. All that matters is what the owner wants to do.
         
        01-07-2009, 07:16 AM
      #168
    Weanling
    Why, to the horse, of course. (Just had a MAJOR Mister Ed flashback just then....)

    ALot better than being shot in the head numerous times, bled while you are paralyzed, (and I won't even start with the transport). That kind of thing. No dyin is easy, but there are certainly ways to make it MORE horrible, like being bled alive.....
         
        01-07-2009, 10:10 AM
      #169
    Weanling
    I saw nothing to make me think the horse was shot in the head several times where did you see that? I've worked in slaughter over 40 years many on kill floors and have never once saw any animal shot several times. I also drive livestock to slaughter and see nothing inhumane about that. Bleed out alive? Fed. Law prohibits bleeding out live animals but the heart does still need to be beating to pump out the blood properly. But just because a heart is beating doesn't mean the animal is alive. I've seen pig hearts keep beating for hours even after their out of the animal.
         
        01-07-2009, 12:56 PM
      #170
    Green Broke
    Did I say he sold to slaughter? No. Plus we cannot afford putting him to sleep. There was no reason to anyways. He was getting better. I sold him because I cannot afford him, simple as that
         

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