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#1 ·
I know some of you saw the story on CBC that came out last spring about horse slaughter in Canada. If not here's a link:

CBC.ca | The National | Archive | No Country for Horses | No Country for Horses

Just thought you might like to know that the plant featured in that story has been shut down... For food safety violations. Just goes to show that people who don't care about animals often don't care that much about human welfare either.
 
#72 ·
I have sent allot of cattle to a slaughter house and have never loaded more than 40 head on a trailer. They were finished steers and heifers each weighing between 1000 lbs and 1400 lbs.


Thank you.. I was worried that I was the only one that felt this way. I am an avid horse lover, and if i had all the money in the world I would love to give every abused and neglected horse a real home, unfortunately there are so many horses and few good homes for them. Atleast if it was run in America, we know the public eye does not stand for indecency and it would be regulated!
I agree with you allot of this subject, some horses for whatever are too dangerous for any use and to other horses

Videos from a Mexican slaughter house? I'm in the United States. I have no control over Mexico.

I am a very real genuine animal lover. But I understand the line between humans and livestock. I would never wish ill on any human. That judgement is far beyond my station in life.
allot of people seem to have a problem with that theseday and if it is in Mexico over of my sight out of my mind. right or wrong

How is it humane? How is it not, after being off loaded they pass vet inspections, look, and perform well. And like I said I never once said theres no inhumane slaughter in fact I said there is. And I do beleive you need to educate yourself on how the vast majority of slaughter plants operate and the fact that there are still some horse plants that operate in the U.S. To be honest you don't seem to know many actual facts just emotional ones.
18 hours in a trailer, that is amazing. I can think of very few reason to haul stock for that long. most people advice on long hauls (for horses) allow them off the trailer every 6 hours to stretch their legs. In humane slaughter can happpen when things go wrong and that can happen when the person doing it misses up or the animal is not in the extract right place. Guess what, that can happen if the animal is put down for any reason or by any means.

Any time any animal is used for meat or for any use for that matter. it use for treated as humanely as possible. and the species of the animal doesn't matter. You will get a better result form it I have no doubt of that.
 
#33 ·
You don't give your horses food or water from MN to OK or TX? And how many hours drive is that?

Cattle have to be packed in the trailer or else they will lay down and get trampled, that is why they do that. But horses... cmon man
 
#35 ·
Well of course the more the better, but that is what I was told by a cattle hauler. I have driven across the country with my horses in boxes and they didn't lay down. Anyway, I can't believe you would drive that far without giving your horses food or water. To each their own I suppose.

Does anyone know why they were shut down in the US?
 
#36 ·
I've never had my show cattle lay down while being hauled either even from here to Denver. We don't feed and water in the trailers because the water would just spill anyway. Our horses never want to drink till we off load. If its real hot we just don't haul.

The TX. plants closed down because of a law passed in the 40's that never was enforced. The Il. plant closed because those against slaughter lobbied and got a law passed banning it. Both groups felt it would be better to have horses hauled to Can. and Mex. instead. IMO it wasn't about the horses it was about getting what they wanted. I've never heard a logical reason to ban the selling and or eating of a species of livestock yet.
 
#37 ·
this is obvioulsy true county, they have video, DUH!! your the one that needs to educate yourself. Just because you slaughter does not use this does not mena it dont happen obviously it does and it needs to be stopped. how would you like a dagger jab in your spinal cord a few times then lay there and get hung up buy on leg then get your throat slit and let the blood drain out of you??? this is not fair and all that bolt thing does is stun them, they still get hauled up by one leg and hung there and then get there throats slit. They bleed to death!! they dont get a quick death they bleed till they die.
 
#40 ·
Oh, I also agree RG and MP. They should be opened up, but they should be better controlled so that fewer, if not all, are killed quickly and with little, or no pain. Its probably a tall order, but its worth it if places want this all to be easier. PETA will never back down, but maybe they (and other animal rights groups) would be less annoying.
 
#41 ·
PETA had nothing to do with closing the U.S. plants horse owners did.

And I never once said that no horses were killed with a knife go back and read what I actually said not what you want to see. So if its terrable some animals are killed by the knife it Mex. how about the ones killed by knife in the U.S.?
 
#42 ·
There arent any horse slaughter plants in AMERICA!!! And those horses arent are killed by the dagger, they are stuned by it, and still alive while they get hung up by there leg. 1,000+ pounds hanging by one leg. So you think thats fair county? You think all animals should suffer? Those mexican slaughter people are nutz, how they can look an animal in the eye then stab in the neck three or four times till its down the cheer afterwards.... you think thats not crazy at all?? you think thats fair to the animal?
 
#44 ·
yes, a dagger threw there spinal cord. Then they chear after wards. arent they just awsom... i think they need a dagger thew there spinal cord then see about cheering. MLS watch the two videos i posted, but beware they are not for the faint hearted.
 
#45 ·
yes, a dagger threw there spinal cord. Then they chear after wards. arent they just awsom... i think they need a dagger thew there spinal cord then see about cheering. MLS watch the two videos i posted, but beware they are not for the faint hearted.
Videos from a Mexican slaughter house? I'm in the United States. I have no control over Mexico.

I am a very real genuine animal lover. But I understand the line between humans and livestock. I would never wish ill on any human. That judgement is far beyond my station in life.
 
#47 ·
What is your solution reining_girl?
Because while I hate to see horses slaughtered (And yes, I know cows and sheep and pigs get slaughtered too...but I will be honest, horses upset me more because of my closeness with horses over other slaughter-bound animals), I see it as a necissary evil.
Even if we close off slaughter in canada, mexico, and the US, it's still going to happen because of the high demand for hose meat in European and some Asian cultures. If we can keep it in the USA, we can better regulate it as well as export and make a profit off of it (since after all, this is all a business).

There aren't enough horse owners who want to or can adopt. People who already own horses are having a difficult time.

So far, I can't see a solution.
 
#48 ·
i know, im saying that they should shut down mexico and just open the U.S. ones back up, because we can keep a closer eye and get a more humane way of doing it. i agree, i hate that horses are slaughtered, but it needs to be done. But the way the mexico ones are doing it is not fair.
 
#53 ·
Yeah. A barbituate overdose would never be allowed for obvious reason. Captive bolts are generally very effective and painless though. Injections can be done wrong as well. Captive bolt or bullet are the only ways you would be able to do it in America (for a food animal). Why don't you like the captive bolt?
 
#63 ·
Why don't you like the captive bolt?
I know I'm not the person you asked but there is a good reason why the captive bolt isn't suitable for horses. Horses have much longer necks than cows and they throw their heads around to avoid the bolt. This means it can take many tries to stun a horse, which means they suffer more terror in the meantime. In the video of the story I posted they showed them trying to stun horse and it's not as easy as you think. The guy missed several times and was hitting the horse with a stick to try and make it stay still (I don't know how that was supposed to help, but anyway). In fact stunning a horse is so hard that two slaughter plants have been caught skipping that step: Horse heads were found without captive bolt wounds. How did they manage to kill those horses without stunning them? We'll never know will we?
 
#54 ·
*Shys away nervously* Is it just me, or is this "creative discussion" getting a little... spirited?

Anyway, this is what I think. Argue, disagree, whatever. I really don't care.

I think that slaughter is nessisary. I mean, face it everyone, there are way too many unwanted horses around here, what else can he do? Sent them all the rescues? No, not enough room.

I think that we should reopen the plants in the US too, so we don't have to ship them. And, it will create jobs; which we need.

My horse was slaughter bound, and I love her to death. Greatest pony ever, but that doesn't change my views.

I do believe that slaughter should be governed by strick laws though. Like, kill box must restrain horses so the captive bolt doesn't miss, floors should have good traction, they should have to stop along the road and give the horses water, etc.
 
#59 ·
reining girl try to at least educate yourself a little on the subject. There are still slaughter plants in the U.S. they just can't prcess any meat for human consumption. And why other then ignorance would you think I would approve of any liverstock suffering for any reason? I see nothing what so ever I've said that would indicate that in any way.
 
#60 ·
BTW unwanted horses has nothing to do with slaughter if it did we'd be slaughtering them at a record pace and fact is we kill the lowest % of them in our history. We don't slaughter any species of livestock because their unwanted we do it for two reasons. Demand for the meat and profit. Take away either thing and none would be slaughtered.
 
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