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post #21 of 43 Old 12-21-2013, 11:31 PM
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then making their death mean something seems to honor the animal better.
Yes. That is a sentiment that is rarely spoken. Raising cattle for beef is a responsibility I take very seriously and find it humbling.
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post #22 of 43 Old 12-26-2013, 11:00 PM
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1) I'm relieved a plant is opening in the West so horses don't go down to Mexico
2) I wish it was ran by horse lovers to ensure horses are treated humanely
3) I guarantee theft of horses will rise in the Western states and I wish brand, tattoo, and microchips were reviewed and cleared before allowed to be processed. I have a microchip and it would only help if I actually found my stolen horse.
4) I'm against people trying to make a business off of breeding....bad breeding, backyard breeding, laziness of stallions with access to mares. One or two, okay, but it's crazy the amount of young healthy horses going to auction.
5) I Wish people would get real and educated about the actual cost of owning an average horse. You don't have money to shoe, float, feed enough food to remain healthy? Okay, then don't get a horse.
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post #23 of 43 Old 12-27-2013, 09:22 AM
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Horses don't go immediately to slaughter. They are held by the kill buyers for a period of time to help drugs leave the system. An Alberta lady became very involved with this and had the research done. It became apparent that some drugs take as long as two years. This would be more of an issue with older horses and that is why they went for dog food.
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post #24 of 43 Old 12-27-2013, 10:43 AM
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Like others have said, not using horses is a cultural/learned thing more than anything else. It's hard for us to stomach eating them because we have a mythology surrounding them that makes them "different" than any other animal. That makes it a lot harder to not think about what you're doing when you're eating meat.

I love meat in general, although I don't eat a lot of poultry because I find the way they are raised to be extremely distasteful and it's difficult for me to put it out of my mind when I'm eating it. That's not an issue I generally have with most traditional meat animals and there are many people who would feel the same way about horse meat.

All of that being said, I probably won't buy horsemeat if it's in the store. When I was in Iceland I jumped to try horse tenderloin, I was completely on the "meat is meat" wagon. Was it delicious? Yes, beautifully grilled, nicely medium rare, tender, and seasoned with a delightful mixture of rosemary and other herbs. However, it was extremely difficult for me to get beyond the fact that I was eating one of those beautiful ponies I'd been squeeing over all day long.

It's just a personal thing, not something that I feel the need to impose on anyone else. I really don't understand why people continuously feel the need to impose their personal beliefs and preferences on the rest of the world.
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post #25 of 43 Old 12-27-2013, 11:00 AM
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I am pro slaughter only because I know it's the only option and some horses are honestly better off that way... I hate the idea of it and I don't like thinking about it, but it is what it is and until someone can come up with a better idea for how to save them all then it's really the only option. It does make me happy that hopefully this plant will do things humanely and we won't be shipping to mexico as much.
As far as the meat goes, I couldn't willingly eat it. It's just a personal thing where I just could not do it unless I was starving. Heck I can hardly eat our own beef cattle we butcher because I get so attached.

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post #26 of 43 Old 12-27-2013, 10:45 PM
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I see horse slaughter as a necessary evil. Rather these animals be sent to a closer facility and humanely processed than being shipped to distant locations and dispatched of in questionable ways.

That said, you won't find me (intentionally) eating horse meat just like you won't find me eating dog or cat meat. Yes I eat beef, pork, lamb, venison, poultry, fish, shellfish, etc etc and sure, it's probably due to culture and my upbringing, but that's just my personal opinion on the matter. What other people eat is their business just like what I eat is mine.
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All of the horses going through our local sale barn that go to kill buyers are checked for micro chips before they are chipped by the kill buyer here. I do not know if that is true at all sale barns. I am sure there is a big gaping hole in the plan if people contact him to pick up horses at their farm and do not run them through auctions. Brands and micro chips are checked at the border. New Mexico has strict bran inspection laws, so I know brands and chips will be checked at the new plant in Roswell. I am not sure about Missouri so I do not know if they will be checked there.

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All of the horses going through our local sale barn that go to kill buyers are checked for micro chips before they are chipped by the kill buyer here. I do not know if that is true at all sale barns. I am sure there is a big gaping hole in the plan if people contact him to pick up horses at their farm and do not run them through auctions. Brands and micro chips are checked at the border. New Mexico has strict bran inspection laws, so I know brands and chips will be checked at the new plant in Roswell. I am not sure about Missouri so I do not know if they will be checked there.
Honestly I didn't think anyone checked for microchips. I'm glad some do! We get a good amount of horses in the shelter here in socal, and horses get loose so I thought it was a good idea. It's also hard to freezebrand a light grey horse.
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All kill pen horses are micro chipped. The chips are put in to document their origin and date purchased. They will later all go into feed lots so the established with drawl times they are working on now for all drugs given to horses will be documented.

I have been following some of the drug testing that the Universities and drug companies are working on. So far, it seems that horses clear drugs faster than cattle and other ruminants do. It also seems that, like other livestock, horses accumulate most of the drugs longer in their livers than anywhere else. Their livers are what detoxify and break down most drugs.

I used to love beef liver. Now, I only eat liver from animals we raise and butcher. I would not touch liver from any animal I did not 'know'.

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The dealers have to hold horses for a period of time to help clear drugs from the system. The plants don't have room for this. All new plants will be state of the art if they want to sell to European markets. Now all horses, like cattle have to be traceable to place of origin, etc. Cherie, maybe that's why the few times I've tried to eat liver it goes down and makes an instant return trip.
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