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post #11 of 18 Old 08-23-2008, 12:10 PM
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They actually said the officials were checking their legs for drug usage? That's interesting because there's no way you can detect drugs by feeling their legs. That's what a drug test is for. They do however check their legs for any swelling, heat, or other signs of strain...

Like I said earlier, they could very well be a bunch of guilty creeps. But without further testing you don't know why capsaicin was in their system. Now a lot of the articles are saying that capsaicin is an illegal substance because of it's pain relieving properties, which gives them an unfair advantage, not necessarily for soring. Either way it's wrong, but you can't go around announcing soring until you know all the facts. Banned specifications are often tricky. For example, bute is technically a banned substance. But it IS allowed 1 gram per 500 lbs 12 hrs prior to competition. But do people always know how to measure a correct gram? (packed or loosely packed scoop?) Do they know exactly how much their horse weighs? Or how quicky it will go through their system within 12 hours? Ludger Beerbaum was thought to be guilty when they found banned substances but was later cleared. I'm just saying you have to give people the benefit of the doubt until they can prove what they did was purposely wrong.
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post #12 of 18 Old 08-23-2008, 12:45 PM
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Good grief! If you are giving your horse drugs you better darn well know how much it weighs and what a gram is!!!

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post #13 of 18 Old 08-23-2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Solon
Good grief! If you are giving your horse drugs you better darn well know how much it weighs and what a gram is!!!
sadly you'd be surprised!!!
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Then they have no business having care over horses. That's the basic stuff a horse owner should know. What if they are in a circumstance where there isn't anyone around.

I think that's a sad that anyone wouldn't know even an approximate weight of their horse let alone the basic measurements for things that treat them.

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If the test comes back positive they can always say they gave it for therapeutic reasons, which would make them sound idiotic because it was banned but it's better than being guilty of soring I suppose.
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this does not make me proud of my people ( i am 2nd generation Norwegian) no it does not make me proud at all.

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From the FEI Press News that came out in yesterday:

The FEI would also like to communicate an additional doping/medication case at the 2008 Olympic Games concerning Courtney King (USA) and Mythilus, who tested positive for the banned substance Felbinac, considered a medication class A prohibited substance. Felbinac is applied topically for the relief of local pain and inflammation and belongs to a group of medicines called non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).

Courtney King, who placed 13th individually in the Dressage competition, was officially notified on the morning of 22 August of the positive test result and the decision for provisional suspension was upheld that evening at a preliminary hearing before one member of the FEI Tribunal.

Given that the Dressage events of the 2008 Olympic Games ended on 19 August it was decided to wait until the confirmatory B analysis prior to any public announcement of the findings. The FEI has now received confirmation of the initial finding from the analysis of the B sample.

Next steps

Now that the B samples have confirmed all the initial findings, the process will follow the Accelerated Medication Control Procedure during & after the 2008 Olympic Games which is part of the FEI Regulations for Equestrian events at the 2008 Olympic Games (Annex G), available on FEI Olympic website.

Evidence and written submissions have been requested from each rider, and a three-member panel of the FEI Tribunal has been appointed. Hearings will be held on 5, 6 and 7 September in Lausanne, however it is up to the Person Responsible whether or not they wish to exercise or waive their right to be heard. The panel will then, in light of all the evidence received, take a decision as to the applicable sanction if any.
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