(Happy holiday. 12-2010)
I am a retired horse trainer and was wondering who else uses the ropem and chokem down method for starting a horse undersaddle?
*(Note the horse in these photos already was trained to lunge; walk trot and canter and whoa on verbal command. Was it necessary to choke and yank?)
The question is simple. How many trainers practice their roping on boarder's horses that are in to be started under saddle?
How many trainers practice roping, choke down while yanking the horse off its front end without verbal commands?
*(Note; the horse would already for saddle training, lunges and responds to verbal commands.)
When is the "Ropem and Chokem", rope and choke down, method use correctly?
Injuries; rope burns, trama, fear, throat latch, nose band, both front legs shin splint fractures, both hind hock knee knotts and two lacerations on right front leg hiden under shin split boots...whip lash?
What is necessary and what is not?
The Jeffery's method does NOT use and a loose rope; it is knotted as to not choke the horse. The Jeffery methode rope is NOT tight and does NOT choke the horse. What it does is puts pressure on the oposite side of the horses neck.
I am a retired horse trainer and have noticed and increase in the amount of horses coughing just before annual rodeo roping time.
The practicing roping a horse causes whin pipe damage; fine scarring and will cause damage to the endurance of a horse. Goats and cows and dogs are not the same!
Does your horse cough without a cold? If so someone could have been practicing their roping on your horse. You may and may not see scar tissue with a scope. No illness is a tail tell sign.
If a horse is trained with a heavy hand, it will only respond to a heavy hand.
Who else does this, Choking then yanking method?
What else is it called? Choking down.
Is it ethical? I would never use it.
I feel that choking or yanking has nothing to do
With the starting a horse under saddle.
I know the rodeo or ropers use the Choke Down method
But who else uses this technique
And please explane how it is correctly used.
And what for and under what level of training.
If you know or have seen this type of training,
Link it here.
Retire horse trainer.
Rope'm and Choke'm training techniques.
Brutality abuse cruelty or legitimate training and teaching techniques.
Modern day training vs old school training.
Any and all replies welcome; need both good and bad opinions on liability.