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    12-27-2011, 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Celeste    
I started this thread with the title "Does anybody on this forum like horses?" The title was changed by a moderator.

My point was this: Think about the 12 year old girls that could be coming here to learn about horses. Think about how they are being horrified by all the people who eagerly want to promote a fast easy market for substandard horses. I would be mortified if I were a kid that was full of hopes and dreams and love of horses.

When I was 12 I had already Slaughtered Deer and cattle so no biggy there. I knew where my food came from and not a supermarket. I think most horse kids know this.
If not they will soon learn. It is part of life. Like it or not.

This forum is overrun with profit seeking people who find horses to be no more than a market commodity.

I love my horses but just like anything in life they are not free. They MUST pay their way. So yes I expect them to make me money. Hay may grow like trees but it is not free. Nor is anything else about horses free or even cheap.

I have been accused of trying to start an argument by starting this thread. Well if that is true, it seems that I was successful. The relative lack of people that see problems with slaughter does not show a lack of support for my position. It merely shows that most people that agree with me are not on this forum any longer.
Why is slaughter of horses any different then the slaughter of cattle pigs sheep chickens and so on? Just b/c horses have other uses does not change what they are. Live stock.
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    12-27-2011, 03:17 AM
Originally Posted by Celeste    
10 horses X $245 = $2450 which will pay for a lot of fuel.
Make it 20 horses. 40.
Basic economics. Say you haul 20 horses from an area where they are going for $25 each at auction to an area where they go for $245. Is there a guarantee that you are actually going to get $245 for each one? No.

Basic supply and demand. You have increased the supply in the area by 20 horses, and demand has not changed. As a rule, this means that the price will be driven down. Untouched, the horses in that area were getting $245, but by flooding the market, the price will go down accordingly.
    12-27-2011, 09:41 AM
Also, while hauling 20 horses is cheaper per horse than hauling one, it isn't the same price as hauling one. If you have a known buyer on the other end who has agreed to pay $250, then you can look at your transportation costs & time, and decide if it is worth the effort.

If I were to take it up, I'd have to buy 20 horses at $5, arrange their transportation, pay for it out of pocket, and then HOPE I could make a profit by selling them somewhere else.

One of the problems with slaughter in the US is that there ARE people who buy horses cheap, transport them to Mexico, and then sell them because a horse of 1000 lbs has a known value in Mexico. Unhappily, the horses transported like that are unregulated once they hit the border, and suffer much more than they would if killed in the USA.
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    12-27-2011, 10:16 AM
Why do I care more about horses than I do about pigs?

The same reason I care more about dogs and cats than I do about pigs. Culturally, I consider them to be pets.

This has been a fun argument, but I am now going to unsubscribe from it.
    12-27-2011, 10:21 AM
Originally Posted by Celeste    
Why do I care more about horses than I do about pigs?

The same reason I care more about dogs and cats than I do about pigs. Culturally, I consider them to be pets.
So not based on logically sound or sensible reasons, given that pigs are more intelligent, sensitive, and loyal than any of the above. So long as we're clear on that point, fine.
    12-27-2011, 10:24 AM
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Bsms, this is exactly why the sale barn owner has told guys on the east coast NOT to haul a semi-load to this sale.

Many horses go through this sale for less than $75.00. If they have a cut or a 'limp', have gotten a snotty nose or have lost enough weight to not 'grade', then they bring a lot less than the $300.00 they might have brought. There is commission, yardage and insurance deducted and if their Coggins Test is not less than 6 months old or the markings do not match closely enough, they need a new one of those. It is not quite as simple as buy for $25.00 and sell for $250.00. But then, this is what someone would expect from some with the simplistic arguments with no solutions that we hear from the anti-slaughter people.
    12-27-2011, 10:40 AM
Originally Posted by Celeste    
Why do I care more about horses than I do about pigs?

The same reason I care more about dogs and cats than I do about pigs. Culturally, I consider them to be pets.

This has been a fun argument, but I am now going to unsubscribe from it.
Well...at least you finally admit there is no sound logic behind your argument, just emotional attachment brought on by the culture of your childhood. XD

So since you're unsubscribing does this mean that you've given up inflaming us with righteous anger ?
    12-27-2011, 11:03 AM
Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
You do realize that any drug that is given to any animal does get out of their system with in a give time frame correct? Some like Anti Biotic is 3 days some are 7 and very few are 14 days. Past that the meat is safe to eat. It if was not then there would be no meat that would be safe to eat and no milk safe to drink.
Part of the reason for the USDA inspections are to ensure the product is safe. ANY meat that goes to market for a consumer is tested.
    12-27-2011, 10:34 PM
Huh. Horses in NY rescue urgently need placement
    12-28-2011, 09:05 AM
Horse slaughter... hmm not for my horses. Heck I wouldn't even haul them to the vet in unfamiliar surroundings to be euthanized but I do think there is a need for it. So while I am pro slaughter it just wouldn't do for my horses who have served me so well.
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