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    12-23-2011, 09:04 PM
  #21
Yearling
@Spyder...I'm reading that differently. From what I had read on Wiki, the drug was banned for use in humans because of that health issue.

AS FOR CONSUMPTION, Bubba is right...drugs generally don't *stay* in the system. So with a known withdrawal period (which can be found), the meat would again be safe for human consumption.
     
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    12-23-2011, 09:08 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by demonwolfmoon    
@Spyder...I'm reading that differently. From what I had read on Wiki, the drug was banned for use in humans because of that health issue.

AS FOR CONSUMPTION, Bubba is right...drugs generally don't *stay* in the system. So with a known withdrawal period (which can be found), the meat would again be safe for human consumption.
That is assuming there HAS BEEN a withdrawal period.

That article seems to imply that it may not have had any withdrawal period if it has been found in the carcass of the horse.

That is how I read it.
     
    12-23-2011, 09:18 PM
  #23
Banned
Yes, bute is given to slaughtered horses. But has a single person gotten sick from it (documented)? And the article doesn't even say that the horses in question had it on their carcasses....only that they were "exposed" to it in life. Well, duh.

No, people don't take bute for themselves (anymore--it certainly used to be a human drug). But, like DWM said, there's a big difference between eating trace amounts in meet and popping a concentrated pill of the stuff.

Also,

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Many places are banning horse meat being sold for food due to the possibility of contamination.

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Huh?
     
    12-23-2011, 09:20 PM
  #24
Green Broke
I hate mine so much I got them Christmas presents! Stupid horses. Don't they know I would rather have a new car than pay all their bills? I'm just waiting on Hickory to get a little fatter so we can roast him up for dinner. I just can't stand it when they meet me at the gate like they are happy to see me or something, and I sure hate it when they do something well. What a waste of time and money my horses are, bet they sure would be tasty with some Dale's and ranch dressing.

Would you like that grilled, fried, or baked?
     
    12-23-2011, 09:22 PM
  #25
Trained
Phenylbutazone was taken off the human medical market due to cases involving the following:

Thrombocytopenia
CNS effects: Convulsions and coma
Hepatotoxicity: High Liver Enzymes.
Renal Toxicity
Renal Failure. (high BUN and Creat.)
Interstitial nephritis. (Hematuria)
Liver and renal function tests improved gradually with plasmapheresis.

Yum Yum!!

Sources:

Prescott LF. Clinical features and management of analgesic poisoning. [Journal Article] Human Toxicology. 3 Suppl:75S-84S, 1984 Aug.

Okonek S. Reinecke HJ. Acute toxicity of pyrazolones. [Review] [26 refs] [Journal Article. Review] American Journal of Medicine. 75:94-8, 1983 Nov 14.
     
    12-23-2011, 09:23 PM
  #26
Started
If you eat beef you have just as much chance as ingesting drugs, since some of the drugs used on beef have to be withdrawn for a certain time period before slaughter.
Do you drink milk? Do your kids? They give all kinds of drugs to dairy cows when they have milking issues and there are withdrawel warnings on the boxes as to how many hours the drug should not be used before slaughter.
Do you honestly think every cow and every beef cow is checked before slaughter? You can bet some slip through the checking and the withdrawel period is not truly used before slaughter.
     
    12-23-2011, 09:27 PM
  #27
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
See, that's one of those things blown out of proportion. Most of those drugs are perfectly safe after a short withdrawal period. Have you ever heard of anyone actually getting sick after eating "tainted" horsemeat? Yet it's consumed daily.....
This. Companies have to put those warnings on their products to protect their own arses...98% of them pose no threat to people consuming horse meat.
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    12-23-2011, 09:29 PM
  #28
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Celeste    
Phenylbutazone was taken off the human medical market due to cases involving the following:

Thrombocytopenia
CNS effects: Convulsions and coma
Hepatotoxicity: High Liver Enzymes.
Renal Toxicity
Renal Failure. (high BUN and Creat.)
Interstitial nephritis. (Hematuria)
Liver and renal function tests improved gradually with plasmapheresis.

Yum Yum!!

Sources:

Prescott LF. Clinical features and management of analgesic poisoning. [Journal Article] Human Toxicology. 3 Suppl:75S-84S, 1984 Aug.

Okonek S. Reinecke HJ. Acute toxicity of pyrazolones. [Review] [26 refs] [Journal Article. Review] American Journal of Medicine. 75:94-8, 1983 Nov 14.
REALLY??? *sarcasm*

Ok that's been said, but the point is, just like humans, animals metabolize drugs and excrete them from their systems.

THAT is to say that after an amount of time off of my lexapro, my body sheds the drug. It doesn't stay in there practically forever like heavy metals.....
You should actually read and think about the implications of the articles you post...

PS) Have you ever read the list of potential side effects of the drugs people DO take? XD
     
    12-23-2011, 09:30 PM
  #29
Trained
If horses become food animals, then the FDA will have no choice but to take drugs such at "bute" off the market. Most likely, they will get banamine too. Sounds like a poor plan to me. We have lost most of the drugs that we used to use for cattle as more and more cause problems in humans that use milk or meat. Chloramphenical is probably the best antibiotic that was ever developed for cattle, but it is gone because trace amounts can cause aplastic anemia in humans. The drug is still approved in humans, but it is only used in last ditch cases, like a brain abscess or something else deadly. Humans that eat food have a legal right to have a product that is free of harmful drugs.



"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is issuing an order prohibiting the extralabel use of phenylbutazone animal and human drugs in female dairy cattle 20 months of age or older. FDA is issuing this order based on evidence that extralabel use of phenylbutazone in these dairy cattle will likely cause an adverse event in humans. The Agency finds that such extralabel use presents a risk to the public health for the purposes of the Animal Medicinal Drug Use Clarification Act of 1994 (AMDUCA)."
     
    12-23-2011, 09:31 PM
  #30
Banned
Or how about pesticides on food? Unless you're buying everthing organic, and even that's not foolproof. Hope you don't own anything plastic, either, because that's toxic. Many forms of cookware have chemicals that leach out and can contaminate your food with toxins (this is well-documented). Or how about soda? Hair spray? Pollution from cars and factories?

Say, I've got an idea....

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