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View Poll Results: Are you pro-slaughter
I am pro-slaughter 161 66.53%
I am anti-slaughter 69 28.51%
I don't know yet 12 4.96%
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post #121 of 516 Old 01-13-2012, 11:58 AM
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Oh, and you can most certainly be a 'Bible person' and believe in evolution. There are plenty of us out there.

However, I'm not the one who dragged moral implications into a slaughter discussion, and I'd rather not continue on in that vein. Religion is a very volatile subject to discuss, unlike equine slaughter!

You want the truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!

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post #122 of 516 Old 01-13-2012, 12:02 PM
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Oh, and I was under the assumption that the evolution comment was Becca's attempt to backpedal out of the "sin" discussion by claiming she wasn't religious.


I wasn't aware of the commonality of both evolution and Bible followers. Interesting! Where I live, if you so much as utter the word "evolution," you're lucky if you don't get chased out of town with torches and pitchforks!
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post #123 of 516 Old 01-13-2012, 12:08 PM
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Other than being against it 'just because', please share your rationale for why you take that stance.

I'm not being sarcastic, nor calling you out. I really do want to know why some people are against it. If it's a logical reason, let's discuss it. If it's based on emotion and hyperbole, then I'd rather we didn't.

Sunny, it's hard NOT to believe in evolution when the evidence is staring you in the face. That doesn't make me believe in God less, it actually strengthens my belief because of the complexity of things. I don't see chaos or coincidence, I see divine inspiration. Others will of course not agree with my particular beliefs, and I'm okay with that.

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post #124 of 516 Old 01-13-2012, 12:10 PM
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Not valid for this discussion, I dropped it.

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post #125 of 516 Old 01-13-2012, 01:09 PM
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I obviously know how to read.. You people do not know me so stop assuming i dont go out into the "real world" . Im not looking for a definition for sin, im against slaughter its that simple.I'm not projecting my beliefs on others, that would be you guys. I said my opinion and your trying to change it can attempting to call me down. Neither is working. ALso never said you couldnt believe in evolution and be religious? I said i believed in evolution and bad things were done back in the day to people and arent acceptable today im not being religious by sayin that...lol

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post #126 of 516 Old 01-13-2012, 01:11 PM
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NO need to do research i dont like slaughter. Im allowed to be anti slaughter

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Quit the bickering. Anti Slaughter people: ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
BECCA289, what would you suggest?

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I will ask again -- to these 24 people that are against slaughter:

What would you want done with hundreds of thousands of horses that are now being sold to slaughter in Mexico and Canada?

Just because YOU don't like the idea of slaughter does not mean that these horses will disappear like magic.

Would you prefer that they be turned out in State Parks and along highways to be hit by cars? (Many already are, by the way.)
We have them, how would you feel about dozens of horses free ranging around your "precious" without vaccines, un-gelded studs attacking your fences, breeding your mares, driving home and your family hits one at night???????

Would you prefer that they be starved in a back pasture because someone cannot buy feed for them, cannot give them away and don't even have a sale that will be able to sell them?

I went to the local sale last Monday. Over 100 head sold. They went from $20.00 to over $1000.00. There was a big crowd in attendance. About 1/2 of the horses that went through the sale had no bids except from the killer buyers that ship to Mexico.

Where do think they will go if there was not a buyer there to buy them and take them to Mexico?

Don't tell me what 'should' happen and what others 'should' do. In the 'here and now', tell me what 'will' happen to all of these hundreds of thousands of horses that are completely UNWANTED and have no other place to go and no one that will feed them?

We're waiting!


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So yeah, ignoring that last obnoxious bump in the road....any Anti-Slaughter care to take a stab at this?
I am flexible...and would love to hear some *viable* solutions.

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I do not care for slaughter but our world is not perfect. And with the economy being down, people over breeding etc. I do not see any other options at this point other than regulated slaughter. I truly wish people would educate themselves more broadly before getting a horse.
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I did not read all the responses but wanted to add my thought on this issue.
I think if more people were pro- slaughter, the slaughter houses could be more humane. I think the real problem is not if you should be pro or anti slaughter, because to me slaughter is ,sadly,necessary but the problem is how to make the facilities better to accommodate horse slaughter. If we make the killing process more humane them most people would, intelligibly, be more inclined to accept slaughter.Imo.
So as of right now, I don't think I am completely decided.

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post #130 of 516 Old 01-13-2012, 08:02 PM
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Here's a sample of "humane" There are no graphic visuals, just a guy talking but it's worth a listen. There is more than one video of the interview. This is #1 od 2 or 3- if can't remember exactly.
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Thank you Natisha. You have made my point about the inhumanity of horse slaughter. Greed runs it. Old, useless horses do not go to slaughter as I have said before, but diseased and tainted ones do. It's just something people are conditioned to think to make it easier rationalize it.

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