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Are you pro-slaughter? POLL

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    View Poll Results: Are you pro-slaughter
    I am pro-slaughter 161 66.53%
    I am anti-slaughter 69 28.51%
    I don't know yet 12 4.96%
    Voters: 242. You may not vote on this poll

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        01-09-2012, 09:03 AM
      #31
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    I'm mostly Pro Freedom. I pay for the horse and pay for its feed and vetrinary care, training and boarding in some cases. I don't ask for a government hand out and most people can't even get a tax deduction for thier horse expenses. Why then should someone that has no financial or emotional conection to me or my horse be able to tell me what I have to do with my horse when it is no longer suitable for my use. The same goes for regulations on breeding. If I want to breed crap to crap then it's my own business and I kindly invite you to butt the hell out. Government rgulation is NEVER the answer and results in increased burdens and decreased opportunities.
    I agree with all of your post except the highlighted part. Why should tax payers pay for Gov. Inspectors at foreign owned plants for a product we don't use here?

    Those horses aren't going to feed the poor. Horse meat is a delicacy over there & I doubt the poor are standing in line to get any.
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        01-09-2012, 10:03 AM
      #32
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    Being from outside the US, I don't really understand the issue, why was it banned (if it was) in the first place and why could anyone have an issue with having horses humanely destroyed in their own countries without unecessary travel and possibly hardship. In the UK, the greatest worry is that horses will be sent on long journeys before being destroyed (meat market in europe) which is where many ponies sent to auction will end up. My friends all use the knackerman or vet to destroy horses that need to be, but I have no doubt that slaughter houses would be used if there were more of them. In Ireland it is the norm to send horses "to the factory" and not regarded as a second choice, they love their horses but they are realistic about the fact that there needs to be a means of ending lives when necessary.
         
        01-09-2012, 11:20 AM
      #33
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Clava    
    In Ireland it is the norm to send horses "to the factory" and not regarded as a second choice, they love their horses but they are realistic about the fact that there needs to be a means of ending lives when necessary.

    I wish everyone in the U.S. Thought that way, but since we're a LOT bigger than Ireland, there is more room for the idiocracy to grow. Lol. I don't see why people can't see it as a necessary evil. Even though "evil" is the wrong word for it, it's just plain necessary.
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        01-09-2012, 11:32 AM
      #34
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by natisha    
    Horse meat is a delicacy over there & I doubt the poor are standing in line to get any.
    No, it's not. It's comparable in price to beef. That's just one more fallacy the animal rights folks have drilled into peoples' heads.
         
        01-09-2012, 12:37 PM
      #35
    Started
    Pro-slaughter - necessary evil
         
        01-09-2012, 02:57 PM
      #36
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by maura    
    I am a realist that accepts that for now; responsible, regulated slaughter is a sad necessity until we change attitudes about breeding.

    I don't consider that pro-slaughter.
    I agree!
         
        01-09-2012, 04:19 PM
      #37
    Weanling
    Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge horse lover, but I do see a need for horse slaughter. Not for food, but too keep the numbers down and to keep the horse market flowing. The US recently made it legal again. The mustangs are under protection, and with it legal, the horse slaughter jobs can be brought back from Canada and Mexico. Now that we're all a little more modernized and the health departments are strict, surely most will be clean and healthy like pig and cattle houses.

    So now that I've blabbed and rambled... I suppose I'm pro so long as things are done in a proper sense.
         
        01-09-2012, 04:21 PM
      #38
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clava    
    Being from outside the US, I don't really understand the issue, why was it banned (if it was) in the first place and why could anyone have an issue with having horses humanely destroyed in their own countries without unecessary travel and possibly hardship. In the UK, the greatest worry is that horses will be sent on long journeys before being destroyed (meat market in europe) which is where many ponies sent to auction will end up. My friends all use the knackerman or vet to destroy horses that need to be, but I have no doubt that slaughter houses would be used if there were more of them. In Ireland it is the norm to send horses "to the factory" and not regarded as a second choice, they love their horses but they are realistic about the fact that there needs to be a means of ending lives when necessary.
    It was banned because it was unclean. A woman who was all for mustangs was driving her car and came behind a truck loaded with mustangs headed for slaughter. Horses were packed so full they couldn't move. Some were being trampled, others were suffocating. Once at the houses, they were neglected, sometimes forced to stand in feces and not fed. That is why it was originally banned. Or, at least, that's the most I know. There might be more, but I know it was a big part of it. It was disgusting and done the wrong way.
         
        01-09-2012, 04:30 PM
      #39
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    No, it's not. It's comparable in price to beef. That's just one more fallacy the animal rights folks have drilled into peoples' heads.
    It compares in price to veal. Either way starving people are not getting imported meat.
         
        01-09-2012, 04:30 PM
      #40
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stoddard    
    It was banned because it was unclean. A woman who was all for mustangs was driving her car and came behind a truck loaded with mustangs headed for slaughter. Horses were packed so full they couldn't move. Some were being trampled, others were suffocating. Once at the houses, they were neglected, sometimes forced to stand in feces and not fed. That is why it was originally banned. Or, at least, that's the most I know. There might be more, but I know it was a big part of it. It was disgusting and done the wrong way.

    Right, thank you, so it needed regulating and legislation rather than banning? All slaughter houses in the Uk are under strict regulation as is the transportation of animals.
         

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