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And you think horse slaughter is bad...

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#1 ·
It's stuff like this that makes me so mad when people freak out about horse slaughter. How many people out there can cry for the horses while shoving a hamburger down their gullet. Do you realize how viciously abused livestock is because everyone is so busy trying to ban horse slaughter? Horses are easily the best treated animals in the entire livestock treatment area. Why? Because people try to give them a voice. Why don't we get this much outrage over abused cows?



I'm really not into the whole "ban milk and beef" thing. Just like I'm against banning horse slaughter. We need stricter rules and regulations, not an all out ban because it's simply never going to happen.

It's been a long time since something made me feel this sick. I don't understand how human beings this twisted and screwed up in the head can walk amongst us. As much as I don't agree with the website posting it, this isn't some Mexican PETA video about illegal horse slaughter trying to convince you the US and Canada treats animals like that. This is real and in your backyard - you can't fake this crap.
 
#2 ·
I agree. And while we're at it, give a voice to the pigs, and the chickens, and the calves and lambs. I, personally, am a vegetarian. I just can't bring myself to eat a face. I know animal slaughter will never stop, but it can be better, it can be less painful. An animal shouldn't have to live a terrible life just so we can kill it and grill it. They feel fear and pain just as well as we do. A cow that spends its life in the pasture munching grass, and then quietly led to a place where it can be shot in the head with one bullet, never feeling a bit of pain or panic, will taste just as well - if not better than - the chemical-fed cow that was beaten and died slowly and painfully. This is all, quite literally, food for thought.
 
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I saw the footage today on the CNN News and I was appauled and absolutely disgusted and enraged.

I got so angry, I wanted to tie those jerks up and beat the crap out of them.

All those men who were caught on camera, were charged big time in the court of law, and are spending minimally up to 90 days in prison.

I would love to take a pitch fork to that coward!!!!!

My FIL owns and runs a small Dairy Farm - and NEVER does he hurt the cattle. He is a HUGE Polish guy, and if he ever saw anything like that happen to his cows, that person would be dead before the police got there. I would LOVE for the farmer in this video, meet my FIL face to face.
 
#4 ·
This guy is a piss poor dairy farmer and has some mental health issues himself but the young man in the video is way messed up. That kid is going to find himself in prison before too long. No dairy farmer that wants to make a living is going to abuse his cows like that. That is an extreme case of abuse. I have never seen anyone abuse cattle of any kind this way.
 
#5 ·
There is nothing the US can do about Horse Slaughter. It is taking place mainly in Mexico and Canada and being sold over seas to Europe, Asia, etc where they eat horse eat.

I understand where you are coming from, I did the horse slaughter topic in my Speech and Debate class all last year. I'm gonna copy & paste some of my speeches into another reply....Just a sec :D
 
#8 ·
My point wasn't specifically about the video itself. I understand this is an extreme case, however, it shows what CAN go on behind closed doors. I am not against slaughter nor dairy whatsoever, what I get annoyed with is people who preach about horse slaughter and yet have no issues with eating other animals.

It's just very hypocritical in nature, if you're for one, you should be for all, such as riccil0ve. You can't sit and preach to people about the horrors of slaughter and how we're not horselovers when you do nothing to change the treatment of actual livestock.

It just gets me hot when people somehow think one animal is more deserving of humane treatment then the next.
 
#10 ·
My point wasn't specifically about the video itself. I understand this is an extreme case, however, it shows what CAN go on behind closed doors. I am not against slaughter nor dairy whatsoever, what I get annoyed with is people who preach about horse slaughter and yet have no issues with eating other animals.

It's just very hypocritical in nature, if you're for one, you should be for all, such as riccil0ve. You can't sit and preach to people about the horrors of slaughter and how we're not horselovers when you do nothing to change the treatment of actual livestock.

It just gets me hot when people somehow think one animal is more deserving of humane treatment then the next.
Totally Agree.
 
#11 ·
I got precisely 22 seconds in and had to stop the video as I couldn't watch any further. There are sick people out there and animals are helpless and defenceless. They say serial killers usually start by abusing animals, truly disturbing. I just don't understand what possesses someone to do these types of things?
 
#12 ·
This guy was a member of the U.S Millitary - retired. Then he became a Police Officer...I dred to think about what he did to the public when he was able to get his disgusting, demented hands on them.

He wants to become an Ohio State Trouper - looks like that isn't happening now!

My FIL runs a Dairy Farm of his own and he says that the rules and the regulations are very strict, and so are the rules on abuse. So now that this mans inbred behaviour's have been made knowledge to the public, I highly doubt that he will be making $ off of his farm - that is, if he still has it.

He has 12 charges on him for this case, and he has been scentenced 3 months per charge. So he is in prison for 3 yeras. Not long enough I say, and I do believe that the governemnt needs to enforce much stricter laws on animal abuse.

This man should be in jail for life, enjoying the abuse from his fellow inmates.
 
#13 ·
I found that very hard to watch, it was discusting.

I agree that there shouldnt be a ban in dairy farming or horse slaughter, but regulations should be tightened. I deffinately disagree with the video's 'Ditch Dairy' slogan, there's is not need to ban it, just control it.

I live in the English country side and live near and know many dairy farmers, they do not treat their cows like that, they love them, really love them and love their jobs too.

That was animal cruelty to exteme and I dont even know why people like that are even allowed to keep animals. The way they were acting and the way they were talking like they enjoyed it... I dont know why they are still allowed to keep those animals and why they got into it in the first place, they should be locked up, they are insane.
 
#14 ·
i am very pro slaughter, we raise animals for consumption so that we can survive and live in a healthy way however we dont need to be cruel about it. i work several months outa the year on a cattle ranch these cattle are beef cattle and they are tough to control and to move unless you know how they think but just because they are difficult and dont understand us doesnt mean that we cant understand them, most livestock are wild, deffenatly not broke, and therefore we need to understand that they get scared and are only reacting to their instincs. It is the owner of the animals that needs to be responsible in the way they treat and house thier animals and thier responsiblity to hire understanding and responsable people to help care for those animals. the public needs to understand that more regulations need to be put into action, banning and closing of these facilities are not the answer!
 
#16 ·
OK so I got about 40 seconds into that video and had to stop it. I am like, shaking I am so disgusted and angry. How could anyone treat any animal like that? I don't get it.
 
#17 ·
I live in Ohio and I'm disgusted by this. I watched the clip with a friend, and she literally passed out. I was literally shaking. I have no idea why I continued to watch the entire clip. A friend of mine worked in one of the Ohio egg farms and quit after the first night after she saw the abuse of the chickens. But as for cows? They don't do anything. They stand, eat, and poop. I'm embarrassed that this was happening in my state, just one county over from my home. It's disgusting.
 
#18 ·
Oh my god, that is awful, it's not even like any of the things those men are doing have a point to them, the guy is punching the cows in the utter and stabbing them with a pitch fork for amusement plain ol' fun! Sick..

People like the men in this video need to be psychologically evaluated, and laid off from there job..
 
#19 ·
Good Lord. I watched exactly 52 seconds and had to turn it off. I'm a proud meat and dairy consumer who lives close to her food, and that turns my stomach.

My family owns and operates a small beef farm (~20 head), and I personally know several small-scale beef producers and local butchers, and the comfort and safety of the cattle at every stage of production is paramount. I know of many dairy operations in the area as well, and can't imagine any of the cattle businesses treating their livestock that way.

Twisted people like that give humane and well-run farms and butchers a bad name.
 
#20 ·
I have had the same reaction to the video as other posters, I remember the previous thread where it was posted.

However, I think the OP has linked two hot button topics that I'm not sure it makes sense to link.

The video shows out and out sociopathic animal abuse. Not neglect, not from ignorance, but agressive, malicious abuse. The fact that it occured at a dairy barn is mostly coincidental; the abuse itself has nothing to do with dairy farming as a practice. Dairy cows in general have a pretty nice life while they're producing.

Horse slaughter, and other forms of livestock slaughter for food, *are* part of farming practice. We raise cows, pigs and chickens for food and a farmer must do so in the most cost efficient way possible. While Americans don't consume a lot horse meat as food, the fact that there are slaughter plants in Canada and Mexico is because there is a demand for horse meat, and that we have a huge supply of unwanted horses to fill the demand. If slaughter for food consumption is not done quickly and humanely, or if the animals aren't raised or transported in an acceptable ways, we can address that in a number of ways.

The solution to that horrible video is criminal prosecution for the abuser.

The solution to ojections to horse slaughter and livestock slaughter for human consumption is legislation on farming practice and slaughter conditions, and educating consumers to create a demand for cruelty free, organic, grass fed or free range meats or to limit demand by encouraging vegetarianism and veganism.
 
#21 ·
I for one haven't any idea what this video has to do with slaughter. This is abuse, and not really abuse of slaughter animals. I am a consumer of beef and probably always will be. I would never eat horse meat because I don't want to.

Of course I will always be against ABUSE of all animals...
 
#23 ·
I for one haven't any idea what this video has to do with slaughter. This is abuse, and not really abuse of slaughter animals.
Good point rcshawk.

You can find abuse almost anywhere you look-- child abuse, spouses, animals for showing, animals bred for food and fiber, etc.. It is always disgusting and this example is terrible.

This is absolutely not the normal life for dairy cattle and I am happy to see that most of you obviously see that. I get so nervous anytime I see something like this because so often do people assume that all farmers treat their animals this way. I know my dairy cattle live happy, comfortable lives. A healthy, well-taken care of animal is always the best producer and most farmers have so much invested in their animals, that it would do so much more harm than good to treat them like this.

Only examples of the bad, such as this one, are readily put on display. It is good to expose the abuse that can and does happen, but it is hard on the livestock community and we're constantly trying to stay afloat as it is.
 
#22 ·
I just about got sick.
I thank G-d that there are Dairy farmers that are good to their animals. The "farmers" in that video need to be stabbed repeatedly with a pitch fork.

On the other hand; this is why all Dairy/Cattle/Livestock farmers get a bad wrap. Non Ag people see these videos and think that all farming is done this way. They think animals are penned up in buidings, fattened up, and then shipped off to slaughter. In the meantime they think the farmers just do whatever it takes to make their money. It infuriates me when these radicals come up to me just because I'm in FFA and say I'm a cruel insensitive person.

I'm all for EQUAL animal rights; just like we have equal human rights here in America. Every being has as much right to be treated fairly as the next, and they should be, regardless of what they are raised for.
 
#24 ·
It always amazes me how the anti horse slaughter crowd are the some of the same ones that eat chickens, beef, pigs and some of those animals go through hell.

Slaughter isn't bad. Inhumane slaughter is bad. What needs to be done is have better slaughter codes and have them actually enforced.
 
#28 ·
I'm not anti-slaughter, but I am anti-abuse. No animal deserves treatment like that and it makes me sick. Any form of abuse is wrong and it really blows my mind how people can do this. I have a friend who is a dairy farmer, and he would never even think of treating his cattle like this. It's ignorant, stupid people like that who make normal livestock farmers look bad. Most farmers don't treat their animals like that, but their is always that one bad guy and we focus on him. Then everybody is outraged and wants to ban dairy....Understandable that they get upset but we can't punish all the diary farmers for this particular incident.
 
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