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post #21 of 91 Old 08-27-2010, 10:41 PM
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I for one haven't any idea what this video has to do with slaughter. This is abuse, and not really abuse of slaughter animals. I am a consumer of beef and probably always will be. I would never eat horse meat because I don't want to.

Of course I will always be against ABUSE of all animals...
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post #22 of 91 Old 08-27-2010, 10:56 PM
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I just about got sick.
I thank G-d that there are Dairy farmers that are good to their animals. The "farmers" in that video need to be stabbed repeatedly with a pitch fork.

On the other hand; this is why all Dairy/Cattle/Livestock farmers get a bad wrap. Non Ag people see these videos and think that all farming is done this way. They think animals are penned up in buidings, fattened up, and then shipped off to slaughter. In the meantime they think the farmers just do whatever it takes to make their money. It infuriates me when these radicals come up to me just because I'm in FFA and say I'm a cruel insensitive person.

I'm all for EQUAL animal rights; just like we have equal human rights here in America. Every being has as much right to be treated fairly as the next, and they should be, regardless of what they are raised for.
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post #23 of 91 Old 08-27-2010, 11:13 PM
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I for one haven't any idea what this video has to do with slaughter. This is abuse, and not really abuse of slaughter animals.
Good point rcshawk.

You can find abuse almost anywhere you look-- child abuse, spouses, animals for showing, animals bred for food and fiber, etc.. It is always disgusting and this example is terrible.

This is absolutely not the normal life for dairy cattle and I am happy to see that most of you obviously see that. I get so nervous anytime I see something like this because so often do people assume that all farmers treat their animals this way. I know my dairy cattle live happy, comfortable lives. A healthy, well-taken care of animal is always the best producer and most farmers have so much invested in their animals, that it would do so much more harm than good to treat them like this.

Only examples of the bad, such as this one, are readily put on display. It is good to expose the abuse that can and does happen, but it is hard on the livestock community and we're constantly trying to stay afloat as it is.
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post #24 of 91 Old 08-27-2010, 11:17 PM
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It always amazes me how the anti horse slaughter crowd are the some of the same ones that eat chickens, beef, pigs and some of those animals go through hell.

Slaughter isn't bad. Inhumane slaughter is bad. What needs to be done is have better slaughter codes and have them actually enforced.

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post #25 of 91 Old 08-28-2010, 12:10 AM
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Just for the record I am not really anti slaughter, though I think the line needs to be drawn somewhere. I don't really know where that line should be though...
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Make it humane for the animal and enforce it.

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i wouldn't eat a horse no matter how delious i'm sorry for the little cows and chickens and pigs getting abused but sorry but cows scare me xD chickens.... creppy and pigs are gross x.x but i'd never ever abuse them like that!!!!!

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post #28 of 91 Old 08-29-2010, 06:50 PM
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I'm not anti-slaughter, but I am anti-abuse. No animal deserves treatment like that and it makes me sick. Any form of abuse is wrong and it really blows my mind how people can do this. I have a friend who is a dairy farmer, and he would never even think of treating his cattle like this. It's ignorant, stupid people like that who make normal livestock farmers look bad. Most farmers don't treat their animals like that, but their is always that one bad guy and we focus on him. Then everybody is outraged and wants to ban dairy....Understandable that they get upset but we can't punish all the diary farmers for this particular incident.
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post #30 of 91 Old 08-30-2010, 02:24 PM
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That video is very disturbing, but it is not the norm. Those men obviously have some mental issues that need to be worked on, and the owner should be shot for allowing them to do that to his/her cattle. I'm not against slaughter of any kind, I am however against the lacking codes that dictate slaughter. They need to be tightened and monitored strictly. Everything from the transportation of the animals to the actual killing of the animals, should be done in the most humane way possible to still render edible meat. The only thing that was accomplished in shutting down the horse rendering plants in the US was to ensure that those horses destined for slaughter were no longer killed in a humane manner. We can't control how the horses are slaughtered in Mexico or Canada, both of which still come to the US to buy horses for slaughter. We've also tanked the horse industry because now there are too many cheap horses flooding the market, opening the industry to people who before would not have been able to afford a horse to begin with. So now a lot of people have horses that can not really afford them, and have no idea of how to take care of them.

Slaughter is not bad, but inhumane slaughter is horrible.
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