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        10-24-2009, 09:42 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Im not experienced enough to critique-I only know how a jump should feel. (I just like to watch the critique videos and find out what those people are doing right/wrong, and apply it to my riding.)

    But I must say I that I loved the part when you jumped wihout the reins! I hope trooper and I will be able to try something like that. But Trooper isnt much of a jumper and I have to tell him exactly what to do. There was a time when I used to use buckets for jumps and Id litteraly have to say "jump!" before the jump other wise he would just barrel right through it. (He has improved alot since then)

         
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        10-25-2009, 10:57 AM
      #12
    Started
    I agree with JDI

    You seem to be relying on your reins for balance. The photo where you jump without reins, your leg is swinging and you are not balanced. I would suggest doig some work on the lungeline, no reins.

    Never kick to jump. At that point, your legs should be holding tight and secure, supporting both of you over the fence. By taking your legs off his side at the last second, you are not secure in the saddle and he has no direction for that split second. If he were to decide to stop, you would fly over his neck because you are not holding.
         
        10-25-2009, 11:58 AM
      #13
    Trained
    Awesome video and well done. I love the camera work.

    I can see you love your horse, but I have to agree with JDI that you should really be focusing alot on Dressage. I would love to see what you come up with video wise.

    Horses only have so much jump in them and as we all know, Dressage is the fundamentals to all riding, especially jumping. Did you know GP level Jumpers *not all, but many* spend 5 days a week doing only Dressage? Majority of them only jump once a week, and I've even seen some only jump in the warm up ring at the comp itself.

    But that's her in North America, I don't know how things are done in Ireland or GB.

    With how much you love him, I am sure you are taking great care of him out of the saddle. AKA Suppliments, hosing, wrapping, liniments, etc, etc.

    ~~~

    With your flat work - you really need to work on your hands hon. All I see you do is hold them low and enforce your horse to hold his head in a false frame.

    Soften up your arms. Carry your hands. Pick them up! Your elbow angle is much to open. Get your elbows to your sides, pick up your hands and drive your horse up and forward into them.

    Remember, Seat Into Legs Into Hands To Soften. You cannot aid your horse to get off of his forehand if you are carrying your hands that low *and wide*

    I think you have a very solid leg, absolutely moreso than many I've seen. And I think you have a solid seat over fences - but inbetween, you have nothing.

    That is where Dressage will become exceptionally benefitial for you and your horse.

    And to be jumping those heights when your horse isn't as conditioned as he should be, is head shaking.

    I love the grid work you are doing, great idea's! But how about incorporate those ground pole grids, with doing Dressage.

    ~~~

    I'm an Eventer, I spend the most of my time out on trails, but now that it is much colder here *In Michigan* due to winter being just around the corner, my TB and I spend allot of time in the indoor - doing Dressage.

    I do so much flat work with my boy, I have people asking me if that is what we do - Dressage.

    "So what level of dressage do you guys compete at?" I have to respond - we don't. We're Eventers. And I get alot of shocked responses.

    Majority of the boarders at my barn, had no idea I was an Eventer. The majority who've seen me ride, thought I was a DQ.

    Reason? I know my horse can jump. I know I can jump - so why focus on that whenever we ride?

    Dressage, Dressage, Dressage, Dressage is the absolute most important factor to jumping.

    Jumping is Dressage, with speed bumps.

    Did you know that the majority of GP level horses - can do MINIMALLY level 3 dressage? That is because that is where their training is primarily focused on - so that they can be that much more accurate, precise - out in the competative ring.

    ~~~~

    What I suggest is pause over fences for now. Take a break. You know your horse can jump, you know you can jump - so why not focus on what you are weaker at?

    Dressage.

    As my coach says when we are in a lesson "You know your horse can half pass to the right well, so why work on it?" right - same gyst? You know you both can jump - that's obvious - so why work on it?

    Save your horses legs, and focus on filling the holes in the both of your training - where Dressage can fill them back up for you.

    You both make a great team - now, make yourselves even better.
         
        10-25-2009, 12:35 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Wow you guys look great! Oscar is a nice jumper...cool video and song!
         
        10-25-2009, 12:52 PM
      #15
    Foal
    MIEventer hit everything right on the nose =)

    However, I know what you're probably thinking. "I don't want to just do flat work what's the fun in that?" or atleast that's what I thought when I was told to give dressage a go. I started out as a hunter and I was advancing in that rather quickly. But my school was offering dressage lessons. At first I was like this sucks I want to jump something but then I started noticing how my jumping improved with the fundamentals of the dressage lessons. The truely do help. I was able to accomplish things I never would have without the help of dressage. Just give it a go and just see the wonders it works for your jumping. You have to try everything atleasst once.

    Now I have fallen in love with dressage. I have now become obsessed with the thought of trying eventing just because I would get the best of both worlds, dressage and jumping. I hope this helps. Oscar is adorable by the way.
         
        10-25-2009, 03:50 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MIEventer    
    Awesome video and well done. I love the camera work.

    I can see you love your horse, but I have to agree with JDI that you should really be focusing alot on Dressage. I would love to see what you come up with video wise.

    Horses only have so much jump in them and as we all know, Dressage is the fundamentals to all riding, especially jumping. Did you know GP level Jumpers *not all, but many* spend 5 days a week doing only Dressage? Majority of them only jump once a week, and I've even seen some only jump in the warm up ring at the comp itself.

    But that's her in North America, I don't know how things are done in Ireland or GB.

    With how much you love him, I am sure you are taking great care of him out of the saddle. AKA Suppliments, hosing, wrapping, liniments, etc, etc.

    ~~~

    With your flat work - you really need to work on your hands hon. All I see you do is hold them low and enforce your horse to hold his head in a false frame.

    Soften up your arms. Carry your hands. Pick them up! Your elbow angle is much to open. Get your elbows to your sides, pick up your hands and drive your horse up and forward into them.

    Remember, Seat Into Legs Into Hands To Soften. You cannot aid your horse to get off of his forehand if you are carrying your hands that low *and wide*

    I think you have a very solid leg, absolutely moreso than many I've seen. And I think you have a solid seat over fences - but inbetween, you have nothing.

    That is where Dressage will become exceptionally benefitial for you and your horse.

    And to be jumping those heights when your horse isn't as conditioned as he should be, is head shaking.

    I love the grid work you are doing, great idea's! But how about incorporate those ground pole grids, with doing Dressage.

    ~~~

    I'm an Eventer, I spend the most of my time out on trails, but now that it is much colder here *In Michigan* due to winter being just around the corner, my TB and I spend allot of time in the indoor - doing Dressage.

    I do so much flat work with my boy, I have people asking me if that is what we do - Dressage.

    "So what level of dressage do you guys compete at?" I have to respond - we don't. We're Eventers. And I get alot of shocked responses.

    Majority of the boarders at my barn, had no idea I was an Eventer. The majority who've seen me ride, thought I was a DQ.

    Reason? I know my horse can jump. I know I can jump - so why focus on that whenever we ride?

    Dressage, Dressage, Dressage, Dressage is the absolute most important factor to jumping.

    Jumping is Dressage, with speed bumps.

    Did you know that the majority of GP level horses - can do MINIMALLY level 3 dressage? That is because that is where their training is primarily focused on - so that they can be that much more accurate, precise - out in the competative ring.

    ~~~~

    What I suggest is pause over fences for now. Take a break. You know your horse can jump, you know you can jump - so why not focus on what you are weaker at?

    Dressage.

    As my coach says when we are in a lesson "You know your horse can half pass to the right well, so why work on it?" right - same gyst? You know you both can jump - that's obvious - so why work on it?

    Save your horses legs, and focus on filling the holes in the both of your training - where Dressage can fill them back up for you.

    You both make a great team - now, make yourselves even better.
    thanks my friend did it for me

    Firstly I jump at home maxiumum once a week and again at a local show if its on but I havent competed since feb so we've been jumping maximum once a week and flat work rest of the time.
    If theres a lot of shows coming up or if im jumping weekly at a league I don't jump at home at all.

    I've really started focusing on carrying my hands and not worrying about were oscars head is. I've been trying really hard to get out of that habit.

    I was jumping because im trying to get my hands right over jumps and my leg. I've practised them on the ground but you can only really get the feel properly if you're going over a fence. If you get what I mean.

    Today I rode and I did some dressage. I practised turn on the forehand and prefected my leg yielding in walk both ways ( he was a bit confused going to the right but he's soo much better:))
    I have a show coming up on fri so im giving him day off tomorrow coz im away then flatwork tues flatwork wed hacking thurs show fri then saturday off.
    Im not planning on jumping him now for a while because im happy I've started giving with my hands now over a jump which was my aim so im going 2 stick with dressage now:)

    Any ideas what I can do on the flat because I always run out of ideas.

    Thanks for your advice and il work on that:)
         
        10-25-2009, 03:53 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wintec    
    MIEventer hit everything right on the nose =)

    However, I know what you're probably thinking. "I don't want to just do flat work what's the fun in that?" or atleast that's what I thought when I was told to give dressage a go. I started out as a hunter and I was advancing in that rather quickly. But my school was offering dressage lessons. At first I was like this sucks I want to jump something but then I started noticing how my jumping improved with the fundamentals of the dressage lessons. The truely do help. I was able to accomplish things I never would have without the help of dressage. Just give it a go and just see the wonders it works for your jumping. You have to try everything atleasst once.

    Now I have fallen in love with dressage. I have now become obsessed with the thought of trying eventing just because I would get the best of both worlds, dressage and jumping. I hope this helps. Oscar is adorable by the way.
    yeah reading her comments and then looking at the video I can see were she's coming from.

    I acctually don't mind flatwork! I was thinking of quitting jumping and just doing dressage because oscar does really well at it:) but then I jumped him and I knew jumping was for him! Id love to do eventing but its way to expensive to do and regestering costs loads.

    Thanks for your comment:)
    Thanks:) he's a wee star!
         
        10-25-2009, 03:55 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sunshineo0o    
    wow you guys look great! Oscar is a nice jumper...cool video and song!
    thank you:)
         
        10-25-2009, 03:58 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 1dog3cats17rodents    
    I agree with JDI

    You seem to be relying on your reins for balance. The photo where you jump without reins, your leg is swinging and you are not balanced. I would suggest doig some work on the lungeline, no reins.

    Never kick to jump. At that point, your legs should be holding tight and secure, supporting both of you over the fence. By taking your legs off his side at the last second, you are not secure in the saddle and he has no direction for that split second. If he were to decide to stop, you would fly over his neck because you are not holding.
    just a genuine question don't mean to sound sarky or anything but how could me holding onto the reins affect my legs?

    But if I don't do that we go straight through the jump! Its just the way we've always jumped becuase he's a bit wary about were he takes off.
    Are you talking about when we were doing the grid and I flapped? That is embarrassing to watch but that was a short 3 strides so instead we took a long 2 strides because it was too short for him to do 3.

    Thanks for you comment:)
         
        10-25-2009, 04:15 PM
      #20
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xLaurenOscarx    
    just a genuine question don't mean to sound sarky or anything but how could me holding onto the reins affect my legs?

    But if I don't do that we go straight through the jump! Its just the way we've always jumped becuase he's a bit wary about were he takes off.
    Are you talking about when we were doing the grid and I flapped? That is embarrassing to watch but that was a short 3 strides so instead we took a long 2 strides because it was too short for him to do 3.

    Thanks for you comment:)
    Now, I'm not a jumper, but I think what she is saying is that you're balancing on the reins. It's a really common problem. You're letting him lean on the bit and you're leaning on the reins to keep you steady, instead of letting him hold his frame naturally and using your legs and your seat to balance yourself. When you're holding the reins, you feel more balanced, so you don't worry about your legs, really. When you let go of the reins, you are off balance, so your legs swing, trying to find that security you had with the reins.

    I think what she's suggesting is that you have your coach put you on the lunge line to do some reinless work - to make your seat and legs more stable and secure and stop relying on your reins for balance.

    Correct me if that's not what you meant - that's just what I noticed about the video.

    Oscar's super cute, by the way. :] Best of luck with him!
         

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