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post #1 of 11 Old 05-02-2008, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
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*~New Project Pony~*

Well today my trainer brought in my new project pony and I am sooooo excited. Her name is Dutchess. She is a pony but my trainer forgot to tell me her height. I am guessing between 13.3-14.1 hands. She is probably, if not, the most adorable pony I have ever seen. She is double registered in the Pinto and Paint association.


What we have figured out from her
-comes from dressage back round
__________-works in head set (through back)
__________-bends
__________-side passes (one direction)
__________-when asked to hault stands square
__________-lead changes
-jumps
___________-jumps 2ft(didn't want to push it)
___________-listens for rider que to take off

Here she is. Critique her not the rider(me). I was having an off day of riding today proabaly because I only had 4 hours of sleep ha ha ha. My reins were to long and I had chicken elbows and I was some what ducking when I jumped ha ha ha. I am not going to make stupid excuses because I know I did not look good at all today!!!! oh well

**If anyone could give me any advice on how to keep her from going pass the vertical it would be great. Even on a loose rein not asking for a head set she would go past the vertical, and I would push her forwards and it didn't do anything. I have never had this problem so some help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks














Okay I will stop with the pics ha ha ha! I Just can't help myself because she is soooooo cute!

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-03-2008, 12:06 AM
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She is not working through her back; she is ducking her head and her back is very hollow; mainly because her head is behind the vertical (as you know) and not correctly bent. How to fix? She needs to move INTO the contact, not hide from it. Throw the reins away, I mean--ride like she's a western pleasure pony! When you turn, use minimal aids--she may be 'hiding' because of previous harsh hands (there's one picture where your asking for some headset and she replied with putting her nose on her chest, hehe)--also, put her in a snaffle, or better yet, a hackamore. With no headset, start to push her forward; you need to feel energy in every gait, but it must be CONTROLLABLE energy, not 'omg, we're running awaaaaay!' energy, hehe. Work on long straights, circles, and some side passing if you don't need a lot of rein pressure to go sideways. Horses 'suck back' sometimes because they're not thinking forward.
Once she starts moving for you, start trying to ask for just a little 'collected' work, but DON'T expect her to be on the vertical. Beginning level dressage horses should NOT have the headset of Grand prix horses! Just ask her for a little bend, and if she sucks back, puuush her into your hand--ride from the rear end, into your hands. After a bit of collected work, ask her to stretch down long and low for you--the true test if a horse is trained correctly in dressage! Most of your time should be focused for a week or two in CORRECT long and low frames; the correct long/low teaches a horse to lift it's back and move CORRECTLY, not just with a headset. Then you can slowly start to ask for more and more of a correct bend.
The reason she's behind the vertical is because of improper dressage training; they trained a headset, not a way of traveling. She is VERY cute, seems like a cute mover, and that has carried her thus far... but if you start to do some correct work, some shoulder ins and some haunches in when you start asking her to bend her head into a nicer frame, I think you'll be shocked at how much nicer she'll be when she's REALLY working through the back. She looks like she has a lot of potential!
If you have any more questions, just lemme know. I looove paints, and love seeing them in traditional english disciplines, like dressage and jumping (I'm a western pleasure/HUS girl, myself, with some solid dressage foundation!) Good luck!
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post #3 of 11 Old 05-03-2008, 12:16 AM Thread Starter
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thanks alot. I didn't mean to put through back. I meant to put not throught back.OOPS But thanks so much I think this will help. I will try this out and let you know how it goes.

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post #4 of 11 Old 05-03-2008, 12:20 AM
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Ahaha, we all make typos! (I'm sure I made some stupid ones too).
I just had a similar problem with my paint... he didn't want to work through his back either. My horse was lazy though (don't know about yours!) so I actually added galloping to his workouts... he looks like a completely different horse, due to all the new muscle in the right spots!
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post #5 of 11 Old 05-03-2008, 12:23 AM Thread Starter
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Well she is very lazy too! Every time after I ride her she is going to be able to gallop up the hill to build up some major but muscle!! I can't wait to see her change!

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Awesome!! Take some before/after pictures, you'll be amazed! My horse looked like he had a sway back... now he's all thick and muscled! You'll be kicking yourself later (Man, I wish I would have taken those before pictures!)
LOL, I know I am!
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She is gorgeous. :)

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post #8 of 11 Old 05-03-2008, 08:36 AM
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She is not working through her back; she is ducking her head and her back is very hollow; mainly because her head is behind the vertical (as you know) and not correctly bent. How to fix? She needs to move INTO the contact, not hide from it. Throw the reins away, I mean--ride like she's a western pleasure pony! When you turn, use minimal aids--she may be 'hiding' because of previous harsh hands (there's one picture where your asking for some headset and she replied with putting her nose on her chest, hehe)--also, put her in a snaffle, or better yet, a hackamore. With no headset, start to push her forward; you need to feel energy in every gait, but it must be CONTROLLABLE energy, not 'omg, we're running awaaaaay!' energy, hehe. Work on long straights, circles, and some side passing if you don't need a lot of rein pressure to go sideways. Horses 'suck back' sometimes because they're not thinking forward.
Once she starts moving for you, start trying to ask for just a little 'collected' work, but DON'T expect her to be on the vertical. Beginning level dressage horses should NOT have the headset of Grand prix horses! Just ask her for a little bend, and if she sucks back, puuush her into your hand--ride from the rear end, into your hands. After a bit of collected work, ask her to stretch down long and low for you--the true test if a horse is trained correctly in dressage! Most of your time should be focused for a week or two in CORRECT long and low frames; the correct long/low teaches a horse to lift it's back and move CORRECTLY, not just with a headset. Then you can slowly start to ask for more and more of a correct bend.
The reason she's behind the vertical is because of improper dressage training; they trained a headset, not a way of traveling. She is VERY cute, seems like a cute mover, and that has carried her thus far... but if you start to do some correct work, some shoulder ins and some haunches in when you start asking her to bend her head into a nicer frame, I think you'll be shocked at how much nicer she'll be when she's REALLY working through the back. She looks like she has a lot of potential!
If you have any more questions, just lemme know. I looove paints, and love seeing them in traditional english disciplines, like dressage and jumping (I'm a western pleasure/HUS girl, myself, with some solid dressage foundation!) Good luck!
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post #9 of 11 Old 05-03-2008, 09:56 AM
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I just wanted to say that horse is absolutely georgous! I love her coloring is awesome. I bet once you get her using her back she will look even more fantastic. Good luck and I look forward to seeing After pics.
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post #10 of 11 Old 05-03-2008, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
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I just wanted to say that horse is absolutely georgous! I love her coloring is awesome. I bet once you get her using her back she will look even more fantastic. Good luck and I look forward to seeing After pics.
Thanks! I am sooooo excited! I can't wait! She is so loving and kind and she didn't come from to good of a situation because she has some scars on her and she acts like she was abused. I am happy to be able to work with her as if she was mine so hopefully everything goes out well!

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