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        01-28-2014, 06:24 AM
      #11
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    You should be doing more circles, etc, right as you start. Slowly add them. You want to feel like each week you are making a marked progress. In a month it should be noticeably a better ride. Don't fall into having the same ride every day! Switch it up a bit, add things, try things and overall be working towards progress.

    As far as the gymnastics, there are great books out there (check out anything on free jumping too). Practical Horseman over the years prints out lots of great exercises, and of course Google! If you are not up to a whole gymnastic one day, literally just trot poles is great or even one pole on the ground and practice in full seat riding a distance to it in canter is enough!
    One I do like is 4 poles on each part of a circle so you do pole turn pole, turn, pole, turn, etc.. on a circle. Or then turn the poles 90 degrees and you have a great outline for a perfect circle or square (bot going over the poles). Eventually you will get more creative!
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    Thanks!
    Yes, I like to try to change things up during our rides.
    I have the 101 Jumping Exercises book, which was where I complied the gymnastic in the videos from. :)

    I used to do more trot pole work with him than I am doing now (due to almost always riding in the dark lately). I need to work him in the daytime over some more canter poles, and work on striding as you mentioned.
         
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        01-31-2014, 01:49 AM
      #12
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    Sometimes it looks like your horse is dragging his hind hooves. There is so much of a dust cloud from hid hind legs .
    This is kind of a side note... but the footing at that barn is really quite poor. I rode there years ago, and they never really watered and they definitely never dragged. I rode in racing goggles to keep the dirt from my eyes!


    Anyway... I'm just stopping by to say that you two look fabulous. You're so darn brave for riding those Breakers!
         
        01-31-2014, 04:59 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Oxer    
    This is kind of a side note... but the footing at that barn is really quite poor. I rode there years ago, and they never really watered and they definitely never dragged. I rode in racing goggles to keep the dirt from my eyes!


    Anyway... I'm just stopping by to say that you two look fabulous. You're so darn brave for riding those Breakers!
    Thanks! :)

    Exactly. We recently bought our own property and are currently working on getting that built, so I am looking forward to leaving the dust and bad footing behind. I want sand and Nike footing in ours and am VERY excited!!! :)

    They drag once a week now (if you remove all the jumps, etc. from the arena yourself on time--which I make sure is done... since none of the other boarders/trainers care-- otherwise they don't drag it). Being watered, on the other hand, happens infrequently... just like the video shows! It is really frustrating.
         
        02-05-2014, 01:40 PM
      #14
    Foal
    I think you need to loosen up a bit on his mouth. This early in the training/riding, you don't want him to become bracy, meaning he'll brace on the bit and become hard to control, then, slowly once he has rhythm:



    also, don't be so floppy, you seem to have a good position, but you are a little to light, now im not saying that you need to plop down in the saddle, its hard to explain, but there needs to be a balance between to soft and too hard.
         
        02-06-2014, 08:14 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kaleighlg    
    I think you need to loosen up a bit on his mouth. This early in the training/riding, you don't want him to become bracy, meaning he'll brace on the bit and become hard to control, then, slowly once he has rhythm:



    Also, don't be so floppy, you seem to have a good position, but you are a little to light, now im not saying that you need to plop down in the saddle, its hard to explain, but there needs to be a balance between to soft and too hard.
    Thank you for the critique.
    I am having a little problem seeing where I am being tight on his mouth. My hands are usually (i.e. Almost always) very light/soft on his mouth, both when warming up where there is no/little contact and during work where there is more contact and I am asking him to collect, etc. Can you please point out where I am being hard on his mouth? He was a race horse until he was 3 yrs old so he used to get bracy and hard on the bit at times, but he will be turning 5 yrs old on the 14th, and I do strongly believe he has come a very long way and progressed tons. He is now light in his mouth and very rarely braces, hence while I am having difficulty seeing what you are trying to point out. Riding around with floppy reins solves nothing.-- In other words, you can have more contact with the horse's mouth without being harsh or heavy in your hands (soft contact).

    Can you also please further explain how I am being too floppy? Are you speaking in regards to at the trot or when cantering? I have been working on my posting at the trot (as mentioned in my prior posts) from posting back and forth to posting up and down (with my stomach reaching towards the sky), and it has made my position/seat better, in a good way. I am confused as to why harder would be better. Are you speaking solely of my seat?

    Here is a video of us trotting (same saddle) from back in April 2013. This video shows my posting as more of my butt falling back in the saddle, whereas my new videos shows better posting.
         
        02-09-2014, 08:15 AM
      #16
    Weanling
    I initially wanted to get videos of us working on trot/canter gymnastics I saw at a Gina Miles clinic on Friday, but his head was so NOT in it today, so we worked mainly on trotting and being sane. He was very explosive today and hot, spooking more than usual. We had an incident at the barn, so he ended up spooking twice at two police officers too.

    This video is solely to show a comparison from my initially posted trot video. He was definitely NOT relaxed in this video, as today was one of his worst "crazy" days thus far, but the video shows the best he did today. I am hoping to work him on the gymnastics tomorrow and hopefully get more videos of him actually using his head.

    Thoughts in comparison from my other video, in regards to forwardness?



    Here are some video shots from this video/ride:



         
        02-09-2014, 08:16 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Here are some video shots from my initial videos/ride:





























         
        02-11-2014, 05:30 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    Any takers for the new video and pictures?
         
        02-11-2014, 11:58 AM
      #19
    Trained
    You still need to be doing waaaaaaaay more figures.
    Trotting around the arena doing nothing with no change of speed does nothing but put mileage on their legs.
         
        02-12-2014, 07:04 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    You still need to be doing waaaaaaaay more figures.
    Trotting around the arena doing nothing with no change of speed does nothing but put mileage on their legs.
    Thanks. That last video did not have any change of speed as he had FINALLY gone to a sane/concentrated speed (after being spooky and otherwise a complete jerk). We worked on keeping off the rail more this evening (barely staying on the rail) with tons of circles, serpentines, figure-8s, etc. We will continue to practice staying off the rail.

    For the past few rides we have been needing to take a step back, as something is off with his behavior and he has become more of a handful than he has ever been (not only under saddle, but on the ground... sitting back when tied, freaking out and overreacting, etc.). I have been becoming increasingly fed-up with his behavior, so need to find a new approach. I have been riding him without the running martingale for a long time, but had to get off and put it back on tonight so he can re-learn he isn't allowed to throw a fit and fling his head up or try to bolt at the canter and run around like a giraffe. I am considering trying a different (softer/milder) bit just to see if that helps or changes anything (though the one he has been using has worked nicely for him for months). Nothing has changed (tack wise, etc.) and his teeth were done barely 6 months ago, so I am still trying to figure out what the heck is wrong with his behavior. The only other thing I can think of are the saddles, but the bad behavior hit like a freight train, not increasing over time.
         

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