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post #1 of 39 Old 11-09-2011, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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Alternative Methods of Pissing off the Haflinger

I am just coming back from a torn ligament, I need some advice to getting back to good. I don't compete, theres no local trainers, I ride to ride, but I like doing it correctly.
Since coming back from leave, Leave it to the Haflinger to deposit me on the trail and have to walk back, its happened twice. I really should learn right?
With that in mind, I decided to look into alternative methods of pissing her off - in a contained space.
I love her, I really do...
A little back story.
I started exercise riding for this farm about 3 years ago, I work with a few horses but always come back to working with the haflinger (cinnamon, aka lady lumps) She is the horse that has left me eating dirt, left me in a pasture some where, more than any of the others. The farm has pretty much become my family, its a small family place, with a barn and the tiny little arena you see. They feed me, they pay me, what more could a college kid want... besides a horse. She's mine until I graduate....then they fully expect me to stick her in my car and take her home. She is a trail horse, but I like futzing around with english since that's where my background is. She does that kicking thing - Its her little dance, I'm not looking for advice on how to fix it - I don't really care, no one else rides her besides me. She is 8, A chunky beast, and trained for trails and driving.
About me, Been riding for 16 years, my past is in HUS but for the last 5 years I have been riding "annnd this horse is currently trying to kill me" which is, ride whatever is the most secure and can get the job done - aka, western.
I would like to jump the haflinger, nothing big, just getting her off the ground.
Heres the video:

And if you'd like to see her dance (not for critique, just for kicks)

And if you'd like a pair of fuzzy reins - head over to the classified section. :P
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post #2 of 39 Old 11-09-2011, 11:33 PM
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Why do you tolerate that kicking crap? Any horse of mine would have a bald ass the second time that happened. Although I will say you're making it far in your goal of "pissing off the Haflinger."

What are you trying to accomplish in that first video? Why is the dog allowed out there? Why is it so repetitive, and why do you lean way forward--but loosely--over each "jump?"
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Why do you tolerate that kicking crap? Any horse of mine would have a bald ass the second time that happened. Although I will say you're making it far in your goal of "pissing off the Haflinger."

What are you trying to accomplish in that first video? Why is the dog allowed out there? Why is it so repetitive, and why do you lean way forward--but loosely--over each "jump?"
I find the kicking crap amusing - to each their own. She has a tantrum, gets over with it, and moves on. I don't see the harm that it causes.

Introduction to pole.
It happens that dogs are quite common at barns.
Its repetitive so I can review and learn from my mistakes.
I don't know why I am leaning forward far too much, and loosely, I am learning.

How about you offer constructive criticism?
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I find the kicking crap amusing
I don't. Nor does anyone else I know. Most would view it as "ruining a horse" - but to each their own.

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- to each their own. She has a tantrum, gets over with it, and moves on. I don't see the harm that it causes.
The only harm it causes is that it reinforces the fact that she is the boss and she doesn't have to do anything the rider says. Which might explain, I don't know, why she's leaving you in the dust on the trails.

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Introduction to pole.
Looks like she's quite well introduced, and clumsily stumbling over it every time. She's not spooking at it, if that what you're getting at, but she's also showing absolutely no indications of wanting to pick up her feet and keenly step or cleverly pop over it, so the repetition is doing nothing but making her (and me) bored. Either turn it into a training exercise with a definite goal or don't do it at all.

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It happens that dogs are quite common at barns.
Is that so? It also happens that dogs are quite commonly killed by kicking horses....like the pissed-off Haflinger who will apparently kick both at her own rider and at anything behind her.

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Its repetitive so I can review and learn from my mistakes.
Well, have you gained any insight?

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I don't know why I am leaning forward far too much, and loosely, I am learning.
Try tightening up your center of balance. Either sit up straight with good posture or go into true two-point.

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How about you offer constructive criticism?
Thought I had.
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I think the kicking is kind of serious as it can be a sign of discomfort or it can lead to more serious vices like full-out bucking. If another person gets on her and she kicks, they could fall off or another horse could be kicked if they are near her.
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Also, something looks funny about her left fore sometimes. Does she ever limp or seem sore?
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Wow,
You guys are a nasty bunch aren't you.

Lesson I learned today, won't be posting here again.
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As someone who owns many Haflingers I find it incredibly sad that someone posts videos about intentionally pissing off a Haffie, hell it doesn't take a genius to piss off a Haffy, just feed them late!!

I actually can't see the point in deliberately pissing off any horse, it's just counter productive, train them yes, put them in a situation where you can provoke the undesirable behavior then correct it yes, but just to piss them off

To the rest, Bubba kind of covered it, so now I'm going to walk away shaking my head.
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I wasn't trying to be nasty, I was just trying to say why her kicking is a thing that needs to be addressed.
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Wow,
You guys are a nasty bunch aren't you.

Lesson I learned today, won't be posting here again.
So, did a good job in the objective of "pissing off the poster?"
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