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post #21 of 36 Old 01-25-2012, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
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As a little FYI, lateral movements and leg yield can be produced simply by putting your body in the correct orientation. No pressure need be applied on a trained horse. I have been working my horse from the ground while he transitions to barefoot. I can get him into shoulder-fore and leg yield simply by changing my body position as I walk next to him. Less really is more.
Well he's still getting the hang of it, but the aid I give him is continuously lighter. As soon as I shift my weight he reads my mind and knows what I want. Just.. keeping his front straight is our most immediate problem. I'm going to see if doing as tiny and Kayty and yourself suggested by doing a little then go straight.. then do some more, then go straight.

But that's incredible! I try to do ground work with him before I ride on long days, on short days I just try to get on and give him some no-stress exercise.

How do you teach him that?

Sky knows turn on the forehand and haunches fairly well on the ground via motion cue. Leg yields.. it's a circus act but once he gets it, he gets a huge release. We've been working on side passing a little on the ground. I might ask my trainer if she can help me out with it.

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In hand work is really cool. I can actually get him to use his back better with me off him than on him. For shoulder-fore, it's just a matter of crossing over my own legs and turning my shoulders to where I want his shoulders. For leg yield, I step completely sideways with my shoulders straight forward. I'll try to get video of it. I'm curious to see if he's doing it as well as it feels like he is.
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In hand work is really cool. I can actually get him to use his back better with me off him than on him. For shoulder-fore, it's just a matter of crossing over my own legs and turning my shoulders to where I want his shoulders. For leg yield, I step completely sideways with my shoulders straight forward. I'll try to get video of it. I'm curious to see if he's doing it as well as it feels like he is.
That would be so helpful!

Yeah when I get back I want to take a dive at "in hand" work. He's just really tall so I may need to wear extra tall boots

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Crap! He did beautifully today working in hand and I didn't get video! I'll try to start an in hand thread next week.
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I think I know what I was doing wrong now with the leg yield.

Developing the Leg Yield from the Ground to the Saddle Week 6 - YouTube

I didn't know the leg yield looked like that, so now I have a visual to go off of and some help with doing it on the ground.

Ready to try again, and I'll definitely check up on your thread MyBoyPuck once you get it up! :)

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That's a good video. Just be sure, if you decide to try the ground stuff, to stay clear of the hind legs. Most horses will kick out at the initial tries to get them to yield away from pressure. Stay up by the horse's shoulders and use a dressage whip or comparable length lead rope.

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Alright, will do! Thank you :)

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I didn't watch all of the videos nor read all of the posts. Tiny and Kayty hit most of the issues I saw.

1. PLEASE take the fork off when doing lateral work (or any work, for that matter). It is adjusted way too short and the horse hits it before it even gets to where his head should be. And, it dampens and direct rein aid as it is always interrupting the "feel". If you feel you must have a running martingale, adjust it correctly.

2. If your horse is green to the yield, you are asking him to cover way too much ground. Walk down the quarter line and yield to the closet wall. Walls are magnetic to horses and it helps to go towards it, not away. Only ask six to eight strides AT MOST in the beginning. Only when they can do a nice yield from the quarter line to wall should you ask to go from the center line to the wall.

3 As Kayty said, the horse should be quite straight through the body with only a bit of flex in the poll. If you "bend" too much through the neck, it is very hard to get the haunch to yield.

4 when you ride the yield, look in the direction you are yielding. The head is part of the cue. When you look straight ahead, the horse wants to walk straight ahead. Don't think the horse doesn't feel the head turn.


All in all, you and your horse look great together and I know you will do well.


Going back to watch more videos.....
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I didn't watch all of the videos nor read all of the posts. Tiny and Kayty hit most of the issues I saw.

1. PLEASE take the fork off when doing lateral work (or any work, for that matter). It is adjusted way too short and the horse hits it before it even gets to where his head should be. And, it dampens and direct rein aid as it is always interrupting the "feel". If you feel you must have a running martingale, adjust it correctly.

2. If your horse is green to the yield, you are asking him to cover way too much ground. Walk down the quarter line and yield to the closet wall. Walls are magnetic to horses and it helps to go towards it, not away. Only ask six to eight strides AT MOST in the beginning. Only when they can do a nice yield from the quarter line to wall should you ask to go from the center line to the wall.

3 As Kayty said, the horse should be quite straight through the body with only a bit of flex in the poll. If you "bend" too much through the neck, it is very hard to get the haunch to yield.

4 when you ride the yield, look in the direction you are yielding. The head is part of the cue. When you look straight ahead, the horse wants to walk straight ahead. Don't think the horse doesn't feel the head turn.


All in all, you and your horse look great together and I know you will do well.


Going back to watch more videos.....

Yes ma'am!!

I agree with you fully on the fork. I'm taking it off and I'm not putting it back on!

And I agree about the leg yields.. idk if you saw my face, I saw sick of them and I could tell Sky wanted to just get to the trotting and cantering.

I'm going to ride tomorrow so I'll work a mostly on walk, trot, canter and a little leg yield now and then.

But thanks for taking the time to comment. I need all the help I can get!

EDIT: I've watched the video and I'm understanding the aids a lot clearer now. I had no idea head turn was part of the cue, I probably was making it very confusing for Sky. Thanks for pointing that out!

Do you have any tips for my sitting trot that anyone hasn't mentioned yet? Looking at the video, hers is very "with" her horse, whereas mine is all over the place.

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