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Thank you smrobs for putting all kinds of good info in one place.


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For the most part those are nicely documented.

Of note though:

That isn't a long back, nor is the description given on how to determine back length, correct.

And a downhill build is not determined by comparing croup height to wither height.

A steep croup is not the same as a goose rump.
If you do not agree please explain why, not just that you do not agree. And give examples.
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If you do not agree please explain why, not just that you do not agree. And give examples.
Agreed, if you are going to disagree at least explain why, otherwise it just comes across as petulant and unnecessary. Plus what she posted is common conception of conformation whether it is scientifically correct or not, that is what most people consider each thing to be.

You are correct about the downhill, but only partially. It is indeed seen as higher croup than wither but ALSO the proportions of the hind legs to the fronts are to be taken into consideration as well as the levelness of the spine itself(i.e. If the croup is higher than the wither but the spine is level, the horse is just croup high(called downhill anyway 99% of the time so it does not really matter) as opposed to the spine actually higher at the croup than at the wither).

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If you do not agree please explain why, not just that you do not agree. And give examples.
Back length is determined my measuring from highest point of wither to ls joint and then dividing that length by the body length, which is determined by the measurement from point of shoulder to point of buttock. A result greater than 50% is a long back...45% is considered 'ideal' for a riding horse. Less than 45% is a short back.

Levelness of build is determined by drawing a line from ls joint to the lower cervical curve.

A steep croup (pelvis) is just that, steep. A goose rump...um...looks like a goose's rump. (picture a goose)
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Agreed, if you are going to disagree at least explain why, otherwise it just comes across as petulant and unnecessary. Plus what she posted is common conception of conformation whether it is scientifically correct or not, that is what most people consider each thing to be.
Be sure to uphold all others to same criteria in future.

Irrelevant what is 'common conception of conformation'...it's incorrect. If you'd like to continue to embrace that incorrectness, knock yourself out. People used to think the world was flat.

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You are correct about the downhill, but only partially.
No, actually I am completely correct.
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Be sure to uphold all others to same criteria in future.

Irrelevant what is 'common conception of conformation'...it's incorrect. If you'd like to continue to embrace that incorrectness, knock yourself out. People used to think the world was flat.



No, actually I am completely correct.
Mercedes, form quite a few other posts I have seen of you lately I feel I have no reason whatsoever to continue with you on this, you seem to be convinced you know everything there is to know about whichever topics you chose to comment on and who am I to tell you differently, right? I am just purely curious as to why almost every single post I have found from you is negative or condescending?

Thanks for explaining why you disagreed with those specific terms Smrobs posted.

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Mercedes, form quite a few other posts I have seen of you lately I feel I have no reason whatsoever to continue with you on this, you seem to be convinced you know everything there is to know about whichever topics you chose to comment on and who am I to tell you differently, right? I am just purely curious as to why almost every single post I have found from you is negative or condescending?
If you feel no reason to continue, then why do you continue?

I only talk about those things I am well-versed in. It would be stupid for me to talk about cricket, as I know nothing about cricket other than I understand a match can go on for days, and if the ball hits you, it hurts.

To be negative and condescending would require me to invest emotional energy into nameless, faceless people I don't know. And I don't do that.

If you go back and check, I haven't called anyone names, I haven't even said that what they posted was negative or condescending, or the whole host of other things I've been accused of.

Just as in this thread, it was YOU who started by going off topic, getting on the bandwagon, saying that what I did was petulant and unnecessary. I could have said the same about you, but I didn't.
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