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post #1 of 4 Old 03-19-2011, 08:24 PM Thread Starter
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Talking BREAKTHOUGH RIDE!! OMG Klassy was so amazing! YAY!!

SO klassy and I finnally had an amazing day! She was so different from the past 3 weeks, very angery and bitter, kicking out and realing, biting and being so not ridiable to say the least.

I have clinic lesson with my trainer tomarrow and one of my really good friends who has really been her only other rider and helped me through all the really tough stuff and been there fro days like today were its like OMG WOW..thats my horse?!! :)

Anyways my friend has never really seen her like she was the last three weeks and she was doing finals for college and then when to cali and arizona for a after todays amazing beautiful ride she was like, ha how could Klassy be such a devil when I am not here. lol.

Its like night and day difference from being the spawn of the devil to halo above her ears and A+ performance and giving me 110% or more, really soft sweet cuddley like thanks make me look like a lair.

ANywas this spring was the start of the terrable 5 year old tantrums, yay me I fell so lucky. Add in Mare and sentive TB, makes me feel so great. haha But oh well today was great and she was getting lots of pats and treats!

Tell me what you think of her, dont mind me I know my postion is mnore in chair seat but thats because I feel really loose and wobbly witha longer stirrup, she is still down hill and I have gotten so much better with my hands! I just need to look up! UP UP UP! haha

***The 5th picture she is under the vertical, but right now its so hard to get her to move up and track up while being relaxed and she goes from head in the air, jaw locked and tense to soft and forward and we are getting her to strech into the bit but its just comming slowly. thanks haha

***The 7th picture she isnt tracking up or off the forhand as she can be but it shows how relaxed she is and right now thats all we are working on through all her paces.

Thanks Sam
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post #2 of 4 Old 03-19-2011, 09:00 PM
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Hi Sam,

I always enjoy your posts about Klassy, your enthusiasum is hard to ignore!

I am glad that she came back to you, but it sure would be nice to know what was going on there. All I can figure is that it was a "heat" that lasted a long time.

As far as you position, the two main things I see in almost every picture are that your rein has a downward pull to it. I bet that in your hand there is much more pressure on the part of your hand where the rein exits, next to your pinky. You are trying to get her down by using a very slight, but perceptible, downward angle. I know that sometimes one can use a lowered hand to encougare a stretchdownward such as in long and low, but if you do this, you would also give forward.
Klassy has a neck shape that bulges out a little at the bottom. The lower curve of her S curved neck is rounder than optimal. If she pulls against your hand this curve will actually become more pronounced when you wish to reduce it's prominance by building the upper neck muscles and lifting the lowest part of her neck as much as possible. This is where the long and low and the so-called "neck telescoping" gesture come in. I take this name from works witten by Dr. Deb Bennet. Her writings on anatomy of the horse and how it affects riding and performance are well worth reading.

I would encourage you to actually RAISE your hands to encourage Klasssy to lower her head. I would love to see some photos of how your ride her long and low and what she looks like when she is given a little more rein.
These are just some thoughts, things to experiment on.

The other thing, and you mentioned it yourself, is your leg being forward of the best lineup for carrying you correctly. It's king of like, hm m m , you are perhaps pinching with your knee, because I have this feeling that your weight is just not comign all the way THROUGH your knee and down to the foot/stirrup. This is also seen by the way your heel comes up a tad; it isn't receiving the firm weight it should be carrying.

All these points look better in the canter than the trot. It seems easier for you to be kind of "in" your hrose, than perched 'on' her as it feels in the trot.

I imagine you do stirrupless riding or lungeliine lessons, no? Those always help (it's been ages since Ive done it, so I feel a bit hypocritical to say this stuff)

I might try pretending i was a cowboy from time to time and riding one handed, letting my legs really hand down and just feeling like I am draping down into my ankles/heels.

The other thing, and someone mentioned this before, if the saddle itself doesn't fit YOU, it can put you in a chair seat. If the pommel is too high, you will be always riding a saddle that feels like you are "climbing a hill". It ever so slightly forces the upper body to be forward, and also the lower to counterbalance the upper and you end up perpetually behind the motion, especially in the rising trot. Look at your saddle. The cantel should be about an inch higher than the pommel.

Ok, that's it for me. hope you have many more amazing rides!
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Thank you so much for taking the time to sit nad help me out Tinyliny! Really apperaite it!
I am going to be writting her moods down on a calender for an extended amount of time to see if it could be a hormone thing going on cause she has had random acts of really being naughty but nothing that lasted three weeks long nad she has never seemed actually angry before until the past three weeks :( Now today on the other hand waslike she is bi-polar and or has multipul personalties! (slighty scary to think about!) She is deffiantly a mare that shows how she is feeling! if somthing hurts she tells meone way or another. I wish she could speak so my back wouldnt hurt when she goes on bucking rampages cause i could stop after the first buck and ask whats wrong, or even before the first buck or rear! hahaha

Thanks again. I have my clinic tomarrow! So stay tunned for a fallow up and lots more pictures!
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The one thing I notice is that instead of shifting her weight back at the trot she over bends at the poll and is over the bit. I would relax the death grip on her when trotting so she can get her face vertical or ahead of vertical. I would use half halts and a solid squeeze with your leg to push her into the bit and then give a gentle half halt. This will put her between yourhands and your legs and encourage her to move her weight to the rear, lightening her front end. WHen you do this correctly you will feel it and the horse will not be over the bit.

I love the way she si reaching under with her hind leg at the canter. If you look at her in the next to last photo you will see her with her weight rearward and her face in front of the vertical which is where it shoud be at the trot for a horse at this stage of traning development.

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