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    02-15-2008, 10:30 PM
Buying prospect mare

I haven't had a horse in .. 15 years maybe. I'm looking at this mare for myself and the family. I am an experienced rider but have not shown since I was a teenager back in the uh .. 70s. I have two teens, 13 and 15 who have very little experience. I'm looking for a horse that will be a family pet, good disposition, good for the kids to learn on and possibly show locally. This mare has a great dispostion. She has had some training and will be boarded at a training facility near home. She has done some barrels, some english, some jumping. Her pedigree is very good but heavy on racing. Her grand-sire was an AQHA Triple Crown winner with Native Dance further back. She is heavy TB in her pedigree on both sides and many stakes winners but she doesn't look TB to me. She is also out of several AQHA studs from the King Ranch and AQHA futurity winners. She is not cheap but not outrageously expensive either. I think her pedigree is where most of her cost is generated. I would hate to buy her and limit her potential if she is really a speeder. But I'm thinking she may be a good prospect for barrels, poles, pleasure or halter etc. for the kids. I want a good riding mare that will be challenging, intelligent, and have a personality. She is 15 -1 hands and 6 yo. Enough said, here she is. What do you think? What is the most you would think she should be priced?

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    02-15-2008, 11:59 PM

Im not a fan of her conformation. Her back is a little long and her rump seems to drop off instead of having a nice roundless to it. She's also a little downhill.

However temperament wise she looks nice. She has a kind eye by the looks of it.

As far as value goes I can only give a price based on my area which would be about $2000-$3000

She looks very sweet
    02-16-2008, 10:56 AM
Ok, I don't really like her and I would say keep looking if I were you.
So here's here report card.

Conformation-D. She has a LOOOOONG back. If you ever want to do western pleasure, this is not your horse. And I wouldn't want her for contesting, either. Her long back will interfere with her turns, and it will make it harder to collect her up for WP. Although it's not impossible.

Pedigree-D. Your not looking for a racehorse, so why buy something bred to be a racehorse? Her price shouldn't be bloodline based because she is not doing what she was bred to do. I stay away from speed bloodlines when looking for a first horse for someone. You need something that's nice and slow, physically AND MENTALLY. She may be very well trained and sweet, but I would be leary.

Training-C+Once again, I stay away from horses who have done speed events. She may have been well trained for it and kept inder control, but I would be leary.

So really, it depend on what you want. Talk to your kids, do you want to do WP? Or english? Or eventually get into contesting? The best thing to do before you buy a horse is take riding lessons. Let the kids figure out what they like to do, and then maybe THINK about buying a horse. And I suggest having a trainer go with you when you look at a horse. You may have been experienced in the 70s, but trust me, the horse world has changed. So it really doesn't sound to me like you need to but quite yet, maybe try leasing. And can you tell me how much they are asking for that mare? I don't want to put a price on her without seeing her, but I would be able to tell you if the price is outrageous or not. Thanks, don't take it personally if I was harsh. Just my opinion, some of the stuff I said may be false since I don't know you or the horse.
    02-16-2008, 11:07 AM
Honest opinions are welcome. I thought she had a long back too but I don't have a good eye. They are asking way too much I think, $7000. I'm going to visit her again today and take some more pictures. I like the idea of lessons or leasing. I haven't seen any horses for lease but I'm sure most horses for sale at a training facility could be leased. Thanks for taking the time.
    02-16-2008, 11:10 AM
Glad I could help! Yes, lessons and leasing are great things to do, plus you will get an idea and see how interested your daughters are going to be. $7000!!!!! If horse prices are anything there like they are in Ohio, that is outrageous. Here you can get a nice horse for 1500!
    02-16-2008, 03:48 PM
Yikes, $7,000 for that horse. I too recently bought a horse after nearly 18 years of not having one. My dear, how things have changed. I saw a lot of horses and notificed people are trying to sell based on pedigree to justify the cost and so many dishonest people out there.

Perhaps, it would be wise to start the kids with riding lessons or lease a horse to find out their interest prior to horse shopping.

I bought my horse with a 30 day trial guarantee. So, I paid 1/2 of the total purchase price and when I decided to keep the horse, paid the balance. Prior to purchasing the horse, I went twice to ride the horse before I brought her home and all seemed fine.
During the 30 day trial period, I noticed a few bad habits that I had not previously detected. The big one, was ground tying and bucking on the trails. So you see, I could have got my money back. Incidently, I kept the horse, but she was a lot more work then I imagined. It might be helpful to see if the seller is willing to work out a similiar arrangement with you.

Good luck and happy horse looking.
    02-16-2008, 10:45 PM
I went out and saw her again today, took some more pictures. She is more impressive in person. She has a very pleasant disposition and is very well behaved. I really like her. She has had about two years of professional training since she has been owned by the trainer. I still haven't reconciled with the price though. She doesn't appear slightly long at all in person.

She really was facing slightly downhill on this picture.

    02-16-2008, 10:51 PM
Mmm... even with those pics you took today, she does have a long back... and a really short neck...
    02-16-2008, 11:29 PM
Still not impressed, just dressage it was right. I would say keep looking, $7,000 is way too much. You could find better.
    02-18-2008, 02:37 AM
$7,000 for THAT horse isnt appropriate whatsoever. I don't know where they figure this horse can price this high, professional training or not. Keep looking.

For that price no matter where you are, you can find a better horse. Either a way better horse for that price or cheaper horse of the same caliber as that one you posted.

The conformation is less than ideal, far from it. Very long backed, straight shoulder, short neck, small head in proportion to the body.

I really encourage you to keep looking, this is a rip off in my books.

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